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Two thoughts on this meme - self-reliance is necessary, and self-reliance is not sufficient, because if capitalism destroys the climate your homestead goes with it.

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[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Grandma there looks like she has land. Pretty fucking hard to get land nowadays. There used to be a time that it was being literally given away

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There used to be a time that it was being literally given away

Usually that was actually someone giving away someone else's land, but modern societies like to conveniently forget about that part.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago

Conveniantly for the rich that is.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The biggest flaws with gardening. 1) Not everyone has land 2) Often you have to pay more than just buying groceries 3) Doesn't scale.

So you manage to get everything to work. Congratulations, you've just reinvented modern farming with all of the same fundamental problems. If you want a genuine change of the system you have to go to the foundations and not repeat the same steps that got you here.

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Between 100% of people growing their own food and 1% growing for 99% of the others is a wonderful range of opportunity we should return to. One person or corporation owning and managing hundreds of hectares with the help of giant machines doesn't scale either, it's currently destroying the planet. The guys on the big tractors are the grandchildren of the people grandma was forced to sell her garden too. I'm sure the human species is ingenuous enough to come up with something that guarantees people's dignity and feeds everyone.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Pretty much this. If your solution isn't considering the community then it's just going to eventually evolve into the same system anyway.