this post was submitted on 15 Dec 2023
1 points (100.0% liked)

politics

22186 readers
114 users here now

Protests, dual power, and even electoralism.

Labour and union posts go to !labour@www.hexbear.net.

Take the dunks to /c/strugglesession or !the_dunk_tank@www.hexbear.net.

!chapotraphouse@www.hexbear.net is good for shitposting.

Do not post direct links to reactionary sites.

Off topic posts will be removed.

Follow the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember we're all comrades here.

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

1."Federal agencies have the authority to intervene in protests, picket signs, or blockades. The law is impartial: it must be enforced without exception."

2."Federal forces are not required to have judicial oversight for their actions."

3."Forces are not obligated to consider alternative entrances or pathways. If the main path is blocked, their duty is to clear it."

4."This action continues until the flow of traffic is fully restored."

5."To carry out these acts, forces will use the minimum necessary force, which is sufficient and proportional to the situation they are addressing."

6."Instigators and organizers of the protest will be identified."

7."Vehicles used in the protest will be identified and subjected to citations or penalties."

8."Data of the instigators, accomplices, participants, and organizers will be transmitted to the authorities through appropriate channels."

9."Notices will be sent to the judge in cases of damage, such as burning flags."

10."In cases involving minors, relevant authorities will be notified, and the guardians of these youths who bring them to these demonstrations will face sanctions and punishment."

11."The costs incurred by security operations will be borne by the responsible organizations or individuals. In cases involving foreigners with provisional residency, information will be forwarded to the National Directorate of Immigration."

12."A registry will be created for organizations that participate in these types of actions."

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That just means it's a less viral ideology. It's a different dimension of something being a joke or not.

"Tired cliche" is a characteristic of some art or amusement. Facts usually become more, not less solid over time.

[–] rogrodre@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

being this ignorant is a violation of the nap

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You really couldn't come up with anything better than "no you are"?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago
[–] grazing7264@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Keep praying loser

xi-lib-tears

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Libertarianism is incredibly viral wtf are you talking about lol. A large swathe of us lawmakers, policymakers, senators and other officials are avowed libertarians. The ideology hasn't been implemented, because every implementation fails. Despite being vastly more represented, funded than any left-wing ideology, and despite being actively promoted by the states in the west, libertarianism is nowhere to be seen in practice, because it is a dog shit idealistic view of how the world functions, and as such, it always collapsed when confronted with material reality. It cannot even manage a single township in a prosperous and peaceful area. This is the best case scenario too, since it otherwise quickly decays into fascism, as we can (once again) see now with Argentina

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No. Mentioning that word once or twice doesn't make one libertarian. And most of the time it's people who'd want to say "liberal" but want to seem smart, or "libertine" but don't know that word exists.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Real libertarianism has never been tried.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

But it was tried. It resulted in a New England town being besieged by bears.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ideal libertarianism hasn't been indeed. Just like ideal communism, which requires statelessness, lack of hierarchy (hence state, military etc) and so on.

As for less than ideal ones, one can claim Scandinavian countries just as well as socialists sometimes do that. Or maybe Netherlands.

It'll be just as good, simply libertarians are usually more modest.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Lmao the scandinavian countries aren't socialist or even approaching it. Neither is the Netherlands. How can you know this little?
What the scandinavian countries have is the (now remnants) of a somewhat powerful union movement. This organised labour force managed to negotiate consessions and to get those codified into law. Since the 90's the welfare state has been slowly eroded, and the quality drastically plummeting, as the current neoliberal regime gets more and more influential. You would know this if you cared to study the things you claim to have knowledge of.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

This is how any ML can tell you were never an ML in any substantial sense. You couldn't even use "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" in a sentence

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

You are right, pursuing libertarian policies makes one libertarian, which these also do.