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My niece told her grandmother about her fear of getting murdered at school. Feel that fear, asshole.

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[–] Shenanigore@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (47 children)

This isn't a "gotcha". I'm a big fan of classic cars but that doesn't mean I'll stand there when one is driving fast straight at me.

[–] goetzit@lemmy.world 54 points 8 months ago (35 children)

I mean most pro-gun arguments boil down to “guns are needed because the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with one”, so when a large proponent of this argument is thrown into a situation where he could be the “good guy with a gun” and he instead runs away because he values his own life more than protecting the lives of those around him, maybe he should stop and dwell on that thought for a minute.

Would I charge headfirst into gunfire? Absolutely not, and thats why I advocate for more gun control.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago (19 children)

I carry to protect me and mine.

You and yours can make the decision to carry or not. I’m not going to go out of my way to save anyone but my own kin. The police have no legal requirement to save you and they have legal protection from liability if they shoot something they should not. A conceal and carry holder has none of that.

[–] goetzit@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So your solution to the issue of mass shootings is that everyone should carry a gun on them at all times, and everyone should be ready to kill if necessary? And you don’t see the issue with that?

I’m not saying you specifically should not carry or be ready to defend yourself, and I would be a fool to pretend that you shouldn’t be willing and able to defend yourself, especially with how things are now. But do you really want to live in a world where every citizen has to be ready and willing to kill his fellow man at the drop of a hat when things go to shit? Do you want your kids, grandkids, etc. to live in a world like that?

The point isn’t that you shouldn’t be able to defend yourself. The point is that the fact that you need to is fucked up, and we shouldn’t accept it as the status quo.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

My solution is to treat the cause. Mental Health and crime are certainly the two leading causes of mass shootings.

A living wage, universal healthcare services, and a fair regulated economy Are solutions to the cause of the problem.

I am not a liberal, I am a leftist. I think we have moved far too much to the right in this country which is why we have many of these problems in the first place.

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