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[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

The WWE crowd took an interest in national politics. It was inevitable, and the results sadly predictable.

It'll take a generation for them to get bored with it again and go away, but for now were stuck with them.

(Don't look them in the eye, it just provokes them.)

[-] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Dude no. I'm a wrestling fan, I have friends who are wrestling fans, and trust me, absolutely none of us are buying this shit. Even as a wrestling storyline, this does not make sense.

[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Busted. You're right. Full stop.

I'll own the intellectualism in my position. In my locale, the people who host and invite me to their WWE PPV events are "truthy," or I would not have made the accusations. The bias is mine.

So I'll own that I made an out-class of WWE fans if you can agree that some of those fans fit the mold I described, and their position on it is not acceptable. My in-class are JUST as insufferable, and In will happily throw them under the same bus.

Thanks for challenging sloppy opinions online. 🍻

[-] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Oh for sure. This is probably an occasion where the venn diagram of groups I cross over with is a little sketch, but still lol

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

you're underestimating how gay and self-aware wrestling is right now by some distance.

[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I'm not comfortable with the implied homophobia in your comment, but I don't know what to do about it

[-] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 4 points 11 months ago

I actually thought the implication was the opposite, as in the WWE is not nearly as conservative as the people who watch it.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

that was almost it. for the WCW that I grew up with in the 80s and 90s it would have been exactly it. people tended to forget that wrestling is theater, the tyler durden effect takes hold and people who are (or aspire to be) like the characters these wrestlers play miss out on the fact that these are characters being played by actors. the audience wasn't guaranteed to be 100% in on the joke.

nowadays everyone knows. kayfabe is permanently broken and everyone is having a fabulous time. CM Punk shows up with a sign that says "support trans youth", Anthony Bowen has a storyline where one of the female wrestlers tries to seduce him only to be shut down by the crowd spontaneously (and very supportively) chanting "He's gay". There are dozens of out LGBTQ wrestlers across the major and minor promotions. Professional wrestling is very gay. It always has been, but only in the era of the smart mark have they started to be open about it and that openness has helped them find a shockingly deep well of support among the fans.

[-] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I predict a significant number would get bored when Trump either dies or ends up in prison, and can't get his face in front of news cameras nearly so easily.

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