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Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) went after former President Trump for his legal woes in an interview on MSNBC Saturday.

“I’ll take the individual who’s 81 over the guy who has 91 felony counts,” Swalwell said, making a reference to President Biden’s age in an interview on MSNBC’s “The Katie Phang Show” on Saturday.

“It’s not about two individuals,” Swalwell continued, speaking about the 2024 election. “It’s about the idea of competence versus chaos, or even greater, freedom versus fascism. If we make it about those ideas, and what they mean in our daily lives, we’re gonna win.”

Swalwell’s comments come after Trump was ordered to pay almost $355 million in penalties in a civil fraud case and amid increased scrutiny faced by the president on his age and memory in the wake of a special counsel report on Biden’s handling of classified documents. The report noted that Biden had problems with memory and recall.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think Democrats are not talking about Trump being a rapist very much and not talking about how he wants to be a dictator enough. And instead are going for what they think are pithy soundbites.

"Don't vote for the rapist" seems like a pretty good sell to me.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are they talking about the genocide enough or is that one of the topics you'd like to sweep under the rug?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like you've already decided I support Israel, so I doubt anything I say about that would change your mind.

But do feel free to support that decision with evidence.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you're supporting Biden, you're supporting Israel. Do I need to explain how that train of thought works?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Please tell me which candidate that has a chance of winning that I should vote for in order to keep the traitor rapist wannabe dictator out of office. I'll consider voting for them. Because I don't like genocide either. And I don't want to see my queer daughter being part of the Republican genocide they dream about.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not here to help you morally justify your vote. You'll have to live with your choice for the rest of your life.

Surely you have other options besides genocide abroad and genocide domestic.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Surely you have other options besides genocide abroad and genocide domestic.

Again, please name the candidate that has a chance of winning.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I guess it's time to rise up and say no more genocide.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's not a name. How am I supposed to know who to vote for if it shouldn't be Trump or Biden if you can't even give me a name?

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So because you can't give me a name for who to vote for, I support genocide?

It sounds like you're saying I will support genocide no matter who I vote for.

So should I just not vote?

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would be more upset with my government than holding my nose and voting. But I'm pretty far left. You do what you have to do to sleep soundly at night.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if you told me what I should be doing, I could do it. You just keep berating me instead. I mean from what I can tell, no matter what I say or do, you'll accuse me of supporting genocide. No matter who I vote for or whether I vote at all, I support genocide. I apparently support genocide because I exist.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Anything other than organizing against your government is supporting a genocide I'm afraid. Protest, riot, demand change.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could you be a little more specific?

Because "either you support genocide by existing or solidarity" doesn't really make much sense to me.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i was expressing solidarity with nudding.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Solidarity with their implication that I support genocide by existing?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

solidarity with the sentiment that we need to organize, protest, riot, and demand change.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well you sure as hell could have been more clear about that.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 9 months ago

i wasn't talking to you.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Please present your evidence that I have done none of these things. You must have evidence, right? Since I definitely support genocide?