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Have you ever actually changed someone’s mind about communism on the internet? (hexbear.net)
submitted 11 months ago by duderium@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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I’ve spent years arguing with people online and really have nothing to show for it aside from my own education and amusement. I was radicalized by discovering r/chapotraphouse back in 2018 I think. Nobody argued with me there, I just lurked, loved the memes, thought it was the funniest place online, then started reading theory because so many people there talked about it. Even though liberals are obviously ignorant about communism, their ignorance is willful: they never thank us for educating them, they always get angry and double-down. (In real life, it’s much easier to embarrass them and get them to shut up.) Still, I admit that it’s possible to change someone’s mind in an online debate, I just haven’t seen it happen when it comes to communism (libs on r/changemyview can change their minds about lib shit). Have you ever seen a lib admit that they were wrong about communism?

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[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but in a forum you're usually arguing for the lurkers, which is why reddit-logo has so much censorship. I win over at least one person every day over video chat though. Those websites that pair people off randomly, like Omegle used to. Now there's a few of them. The webcam feeds use webRTC, so they're p2p over the Internet between the two people.

People are much more amenable than you might think, because they too are also seeing this thing fall apart. Being able to articulate the systems and history that keep the status quo is sometimes all it takes. Get them to libgen with fresh copies of Blackshirts and Reds, Capitalist Realism, How to Blow Up a Pipeline, etc - whatever it takes. Whatever their discontent is, I had a guy raging about the border just yesterday. He must've had some familiarity with things because all it took was mentioned how I find it better to think of why there is an apparent wave... The destruction of people and governments in their countries, for business. Then they're used to divide the domestic working class and keep them from looking at the root causes.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which video chat sites are you using?

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's a few now, I stick to one that a Portuguese firm operates the frontend for. Fair warning, you're going to get flashed a lot. Just like Omegle. There's a few websites that all connect you to the same pool of chatters. There's Minichat dot Com, Chatruletka dot Com, Ome dot TV - again all effectively the same.

You need a fake VK or Facebook account, but those are easy to sign up. Just don't stand up, they run a JavaScript image recognition model in the web browser that checks your chat partner's webcam feed for things they'd like to ban people for.

There's some other ones... Emerald, Monkey, Chat Roulette, Chat Random, etc.