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[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gridlock cameras can be added to red light cameras, also reducing congestion policing costs.

Speed cameras trap people new to an area.

Or they could just, not speed? And speed cameras can be everywhere. They cost up to $50k to deploy and collect to 2k+ fines per year (based in my location, this obviously varies wildly), so they run net positive. Rotating locations can also get after the habits of locals, though that's the 50k cost, I'd guess statics are cheaper.

If immediate reduction is most important than habit changing over time (i.e. a school zone or highway transition) speed linked red lights can achieve the effect. Such to say, if you drive over the limit, the light turns red. This forces you to stop and pisses off everyone behind you, providing social pressure. These are only in the pilot stage, so I don't know the real deployment costs.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Speed traps are called speed traps because the limit suddenly drops like 20-30 mph in a very short distance. Saying "just don't speed" completely ignores how speed traps work and why they exist .

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just realised this is a US politics forum, my insights my not be useful.

Speed cameras in my region require at least one warming sign and a sign on the camera itself, yet they still catch people (myself included...)

The short distance limit dropping sounds like a failure in road design if cars aren't naturally lowering speeds due to the changing streetscape.

Regardless, the point of enforcement (and the rules they informed) should be based on keeping roads safe, not "trapping" people. I'm sorry you have to go through that.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But I want to drive 65 in a 30 zone! It's a conspiracy by the deep state agenda 21 liberal fascist police to prevent me from doing that!

/S