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At the Young Republican mixer Friday evening a group of Nazis, who openly identified as national socialists, mingled with mainstream conservative personalities, including some from Turning Point USA, and discussed race science and antisemitic conspiracy theories.

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[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm out of the loop, what does that symbol mean? Not sure how I would look it up without a name or something.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It is the runic letter Othala. It is just a letter in the runic alphabet. Beyond being a letter though often runes had an individual meeting or association in the cultures that used them.

It, along with many other symbols were adopted by the Nazis. Now among white power groups it is has a meaning of racial purity. "Keeping the white race pure"

Oh and the picture is real I looked it up.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, that rune looks really easy to make by accident.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Maybe but if you look closely at the stage. it is Othala with wings. There are little feet that come up off the legs. An iteration that I believe is exclusively used as a white power symbol. At best it was a massive fuck up, at worst it was a dog whistle. Though ultimately it is a dog whistle, for the people who this symbol has meaning will see it as one.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Nah, the design choices by themselves are pretty fucking weird.

[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the info, I only knew of the swatiska one really , didn't know that group used several symbols. Kind of not wanting to dig too deep and be flagged is why I don't know, I guess. Much appreciated for sharing the awareness.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that is fair, it is hard to keep track of everything especially with co-opted symbols. I know I can't. Though here is an okay rule of thumb with Nazi shit.

Does it look "Viking/old Germanic"? No - probably not a Nazi, Yes - maybe a Nazi

Is the person using the symbol new age hippie looking? Yes - probably not a Nazi, No - maybe a Nazi

I know that leaves a lot of vagueness, but it is a good place to start. Then you can double check any suspects symbols.

Just remember different groups can have vastly different ideologies and look somewhat similar. For example the SHARPs (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) are very anti Nazi. But just looking at a group of them you might be confused. As they tend to be mostly militant white young men wearing leather with shaved heads.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hate that that’s not even incorrect as I’ve met multiple Norse pagan antifascists. One common line from them is asserting that Odin is the all father not the some father.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Make it curvy and it becomes HIV/AIDS symbol.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You mean the shape of a ribbon? Ribbons have been used for all kinds of symbols.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes but in this case just make those angles not-pointy and the symbol will look like:

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, and it's a ribbon shape, nothing to do with AIDS in particular.

[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Othala

I can never remember the name of the thing but after digging through some "cpac stage symbol" searches it seems to be called the othala rune or the odal rune.

[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Thanks for the info!