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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That's how the world works. Pretending that's not what's happening is how you get a fascist takeover. Primary better candidates or deal with it. The rest of us don't want to deal with your angst in the form of the end of our democracy.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Check this out:

That’s how the world works. Pretending that’s not what’s happening is how you get a fascist takeover. Primary better candidates or deal with it. The rest of us don’t want to deal with your angst in the form of the end of our democracy.

If you take another look at your sentence, its so fuckin vague and filledd with emotional platitudes that i can use the same words, changing not a single one, to argue against your position.

We leftists are tired of you and your ilks tantrums about us not voting for Biden.

Tired of your victim blaming, tired of your complete and aggessive ignorance of the current issues and how politics actually work.

The loudest of you dumb motherfuckers are simply repeating what you heard on the boob tube. You know nothing, and my yelling at your now will change nothing, because you have been reduced to nothing. Nothing but a parrot.

its a bad joke, and the punchline is you're never gonna understand what a useful idiot you have become for fascism.

[–] shikitohno@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You'll wind up dealing with a bleaker outlook on democracy one way or another. Just see how long the Democrats can cry wolf with "Oh no, the other guy is going to destroy our democracy, and I swear to god, guys, just vote for us one more time and we're totally going to fix it this time." You can only pull this bit so many times before people stop taking you seriously. At a certain point, you have to ask how stupid the DNC can be? This was a losing tactic with Hillary Clinton, it's not looking so great for Biden, but just keep rolling it out every few years, it's bound to start working sooner or later, right? Definitely sounds like a winning move to me. Heck, it's real convincing when that's what Biden ran on last time, and he's not exactly crushing it with his strategy of "I'll just go talk to these Republicans like I did 40 years ago, I'm sure we can reach an understanding like we used to, back when I still wholeheartedly helped pass laws that would lock up minorities."

I'm sure being able to say "I told you so" will make you feel much better if things don't pan out and it turns out you can't just nag and guilt trip people into voting for a candidate that holds views they can't stomach voting for.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You’ll wind up dealing with a bleaker outlook on democracy one way or another.

Well ONE of the ways is literally a fascist takeover. So excuse me but I'll take Option B please.

You can bitch and moan about the DNC all you want but that won't stop it.

I’m sure being able to say “I told you so” will make you feel much better if things don’t pan out and it turns out you can’t just nag and guilt trip people into voting for a candidate that holds views they can’t stomach voting for.

I'm not going to have time to rub your dumb faces in it when I'm literally fleeing for my life. Your principals will get people killed.

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Can I just butt in and say that you both have a point? On one hand, yes, things could be better than what moderates offers, and moderates don't like what moderates do while yes, moderates have a disdain toward those left to them and yes, those who received that disdains are correct to throw it back at them and make their life harder. On the other hand, yes, democracy comes first before feuds, and feuds can resume later.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Sure, but if the people dissatisfied with Biden would put more an effort apart from presidential runs it would make more sense. All this emphasis on hating the primary candidates every four years is senseless. If you really care show up for the other stuff like local elections/ midterms, or put forward a better candidate yourself, or maybe even run yourself! In other words: shit or get off the can. This obsession with the president is unhealthy. You want progress? Get us a house/Senate with more than a slim majority so we can pass policy. Anything else is just jerking off in the wind.