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Comrade, I appreciate your willingness to engage, but we’re materialists, not followers of the Great Man theory.
While there are many commendable actions Einstein took as a political activist, I imagine you’re not going to defend this xenophobia.
It’s fine if you included the Einstein quote in there as a note to end on, but it shouldn’t be your argument, since honestly, Einstein’s political views shouldn’t mean more solely on the basis of breakthroughs in physics (despite what Einstein claims). I would instead have frame challenged their comment to point out that the US claims to be such a “democratic utopia” but is definitely an “authoritarian dictatorship” itself. Maybe follow up with a quote about how any of the countries that didn’t do something succumbed to the US’ anticommunist efforts
I don't see what relevance any of that has. You guys from lemmygrad need to learn from hexbear and learn when not to be self-wreckers when dealing with libs, all this does is function as support for the libs in this thread, of course nobody supports the sinophobic shit, find me a comrade that wasn't fucking weird about asians at the time - good luck. That doesn't stop us using them wherever valid.
"Shouldn't mean more" than what? The shmucks here commenting with their vast amount of knowledge about socialism gained from reddit comment sections? Yes it absolutely should mean more.
I’m just trying to point out that you’re left defending a weak argument, and the libs already have taken advantage of that, comrade.
Of course, I was referring to those who actually do have experience in the field.
I hope you don’t take this the wrong way. Feel free to disregard my replies if you don’t appreciate them.
Nobody has actually given an example of "those who actually do have experience in the field". Nobody is making that argument in good faith. Anyone "with experience in the field" of political matters is part of one or another ideological camp too, and thus either gets entirely dismissed for their bias, or worshipped for it, depending entirely upon which camp is reading the content. Unexpected outsiders to politics(which Einstein certainly was not, it's just not historically well known to the libs) that are venerated in their fields are fundamentally more persuasive to bystanders who aren't acting in bad-faith than the people with obvious bias.
Fair enough, I guess I was thinking of someone like Lenin himself.
I just don’t understand why you appeal to an outsider at all instead of the idea itself, but you’re probably right that we don’t need to keep debating this.