I know a lot of libs, and the one thing that seems to tie them all together is they honestly believe they are the "good" guys. We all see that when they twist themselves into knots trying to defend Israel when they are clearly wrong... are we just going to see more of that but for every ghoulish take Democrats have going forward?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 32 points 7 months ago

So what are the libs going to do? Become full-throated fascists?

No, they're going to remain what they are - the polite fascists. They do all the same policies, just as civil, adults in the room, making hard decisions, coming together to get things done

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The voters do believe that and many try to be that to some extent.

But they give carte blanche to lib politicians, almost all of whom (at the national level) are basically indistinguishable from conservatives of 10 years ago, in part due to what Kaplya describes; they are trying to outflank conservatives from the right, as they always have, but as conservatives get more and more unhinged, so too do dems shift further and further out. And voters desperately try to justify it all, because they don't know what else they can do besides vote.

Look at the rhetoric around immigration now, just 10-15 years ago it was about having sanctuary cities and how inhumane Bush had done it, now liberal politicians just flat out tell the press that 'we have border problems' and 'we need to securitize it', literally 3-5 years or less after they talked about how deranged Trump had been when he was doing the exact same stuff.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

The dems are doing a great job making sure I never support them anymore!

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

Talk to your average Democrat. Go and speak to them or listen to what they have to say. And I don't mean voter, I mean person in the party. They are already there.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

So what are the libs going to do? Become full-throated fascists?

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[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Holocaust wouldn’t have happened if the millions and millions of German libs hadn’t stayed quiet (and even actively collaborated) while the Nazis were shipping Jews and other minorities to the concentration camps.

At the end of the day, you know where the libs will stand. History has already taught us this lesson.

They’re probably genuinely good people when you meet them in person, but that doesn’t mean they won’t stay silent (or even secretly report you to the authorities, because that’s the “right thing to do”) while the fascists are rounding people up. You’ll probably get a “I’m so sorry this is happening” pity from them as you’re being executed.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

don't need history when they're saying the genocide denial out loud right now about the Palestinians.