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[–] alilbee@lemmy.world 190 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Disappointed in the comments here so far. There's a cardinal rule of improv that also works well for many other things in life, politics included: "yes, and".

This is a great change that will save folks money and make the country just a little bit fairer. Celebrate that, and then use the momentum to push for more. This builds alliances and a shared vision, instead of devolving into petty squabbles around direction.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

It's definitely a start.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can please some of the people some of the time, but none of the people all of the time.

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean all of the people none of the time?

[–] D3m0li5h3r@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] credo@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

How so?

“I can please none of the people all of the time,” equates to, “I can always please no one,” or.. “I can never please anyone.”

This is not the same as, “I can please all of the people none of the time,” which is, “I can never please everyone.”

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

literacy is hard mkay

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This seems very important to argue with a stranger about

[–] credo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s the principal of the matter. (See subject headline)

[–] Rev3rze@feddit.nl 2 points 6 months ago

I'm genuinely proud of you for this joke. Bravo! No notes.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"I can please none of the people all of the time," reads to me as there is no one you can please every time; i.e. you will disappoint everyone at some point. Which I feel is as true as not being able to please everyone.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I hear you. Look into the difference between contraposistive and converse.

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

"all of the people none of the time" means you will never please 100% of everyone. As in, maybe some people, but not everyone.
"none of the people all of the time" means you will always please 0% of people.

They're very different statements.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Full disclosure: Trump bad! Biden GOOD!

You’re disappointed but personally, it’s hard NOT to feel a great deal of schadenfreude when:

the guy who, for his entire career, has openly accepted bribes in exchange for legislation that is economically violent toward his own constituents now presumably wants the exact same constituents he sold out to vote for him

and is using small, meaningless crumbs to gain that vote when he could have just NOT ENABLED A GENOCIDE.

If this situation doesn’t make you a true believer about there being no hope, I honestly don’t know what will. I lost hope in 2016 and have just been laughing through the bullshit since then. It’s exactly as real as pro wrestling at this point.

no yes

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I love this reply.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The problem is that supporters of the "business as usual politicians such as this (or pardoning federal inmates convicted of marijuana possession of which there were zero) hold things up like this whenever one criticizes them in order to claim that they're doing so much to help the country.

Throwing scraps on the floor in order to get better polling numbers before an election isn't serving the people.

[–] alilbee@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Then criticize them then and have them stay on topic, and I'll be right there with ya. Right now though, they're not using it as a bludgeon. It's just a nice win. Do you not see how your approach will lead to nothing but cynicism over time? Even if you strive not to, you will begin to view every win as some sort of maneuver to get one over on you.

[–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Biden started the momentum for capping late fees over a year ago. He mentioned it in his State of the Union address. This is just how government works. I don't think having some progress made in March of an election year after initiating desire to make progress over a year ago is scaps on the floor. It is competent governing.