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On civil disobedience (slrpnk.net)

submitted 8 months ago by dillekant@slrpnk.net to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Hi guys, I just wanted to call out an inappropriate term I've seen used sometimes: Civil Disobedience. It's not just civil disobedience when you pirate something privately, you need to do it publicly and dare the authorities to do something about it.

So an example here would be to set up a massive leech party and advertise it specifically as civil disobedience. Say all manner of things from all manner of copyright holders would be transmitted, and try and get news coverage. That's civil disobedience.

Just downloading a movie because you want to watch it is not. OK thanks for your time.

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[–] Clent@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did you even bother to consult a dictionary before you wrote up this silly gatekeeping nonsense?

There is nothing in the definition of civil disobedience that says it needs to be public.

There is nothing that say we have to openly challenge the authorities.

There is nothing that says we have to get the medias attention.

[–] dillekant@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Wikipedia:

Civil disobedience is the active, professed refusal of a citizen to obey certain laws, demands, orders or commands of a government (or any other authority).

The "refusal" part is where you challenge the authorities.

The "professed" part is where you do it publically.

The "media attention" is the bit where you are not an idiot. If no one knows you went to jail, that's just willfully breaking the law.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

"Media attention" doesn't appear on your quote nor the entitreity of that Wikipedia article.

The other two are merely your personal interpretation of how you split the phrase "professed refusal"

Professed can as easily be satisfied by going on a piracy forum and declaring your allegiance to the movement.

Refusal is what piracy is. The act of ignoring copyright law, is the refusal.

"I do not agree with copyright law and will not be restricted by it" -- This statement satisfies "professed refusal"

I do not have to petition my senator.

I don't have to stand on a street corner with a sign.

I will take it further and claim that you or anyone else adding arbitrary rules to how one must practice civil disobedience is antithetical to civil disobedience.