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[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And Adira doesn’t get the dignity of even existing without having to declare themselves and struggling to fit in as well.

Contrast with Sisko, where him being black isn't even mentioned until Season 6's "Far Beyond the Stars," or Jadzia's bisexuality never being directly mentioned at all.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly— Sisko only discussed his race in the context of comparing it to the unfairness of the past. It was never even noticed in the present— in fact, the only other time Sisko actually mentioned it was when discussing with Cassidy why he didn’t like going to Vic’s holosuite casino: because the 1960s-era representation was historically inaccurate of its representations of its attitudes towards people of color— in that the holosuite casino had no racism and, in reality, Vegas casinos were very racist at that time. He saw that as dishonest whitewashing of history. Cassidy countered that he should try to enjoy it, not as an account of history (as it was never intended to be), but as a representation of how things should have been.

And the message? Don’t forget the past, but also don’t let it get in the way of enjoying the present.

And THIS is how to use nuance to combine fantastic writing and acting and directing to communicate complex social concepts and to properly contextualize them in a utopian, equitable democratic socialist future referring to and being viewed by a contemporaneous audience in the 20th/21st century.

The writing directing and acting in discovery looks middle school improv by comparison. 

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

and, in reality, Vegas casinos were very racist at that time.

Not as much as you would think. The Rat Pack used their popularity to strong-arm the Vegas casinos into ending segregationist policies. The city was actually fully desegregated in 1960, in large part thanks to the Rat Pack's actions. Vic seems to be a fictional member of the group invented by Felix, so it tracks that his personal establishment would be one of the most welcoming.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Kind of hard to have Sammy in the pack and encourage segregated policies.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Jadzia’s bisexuality never being directly mentioned at all.

An interesting example of being more inclusive because they wanted to avoid controversy more than because they just wanted to be inclusive.