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Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) said policy differences toward Israel between her and President Biden won’t stop her from supporting him in the November general election.

“Of course,” Omar said Tuesday, when asked by CNN’s Abby Phillip on “NewsNight” whether she would vote for Biden if the election were held that day, in a clip highlighted by Mediaite. “Democracy is on the line, we are facing down fascism.”

“And I personally know what my life felt like having Trump as the president of this country, and I know what it felt like for my constituents, and for people around this country and around the world,” Omar continued. “We have to do everything that we can to make sure that does not happen to our country again.”

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[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but there are only 4 options when November comes: 1) vote for Biden, 2) vote for Trump, 3) vote 3rd party, or 4) don’t vote.

Due to how the US system works, options 2-4 only help Trump, so unless you want a Trump presidency, only option 1 is valid.

Anything else is just at best a pipe dream, or at worst, direct support for someone who will become a dictator.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

If the weatherman says a tornado is going to hit your town tomorrow, would you start getting upset at them for causing a tornado?

Or would you be appreciative that someone gave you a heads up while there's still time?

Because I see a lot of people frantically ringing alarm bells. For years at this point.

The primary still isn't over despite the DNC pulling delegates from NH.

There's still time to not run Biden. And I know that's unlikely.

But there's still also time to make noise and hope Biden and the DNC sees reason and move left so trump doesn't win

But telling people:

Shut up and vote Biden

Isn't going to get Biden enough votes to beat trump. He's sitting at less than 1/3 approval with voters...

We can't just stick our heads in the sand and hope that's enough.

If you want to be sure we beat Trump, start making noise and praying Biden actually listens.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I continue to believe polls have been less and less accurate and for the last several elections, special, midterm, and general, or so, polls have been completing meaningless. It's obvious to me that respondents in recent years simply lying to pollsters.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but there are only 4 options when November comes: 1) vote for Biden, 2) vote for Trump, 3) vote 3rd party, or 4) don’t vote.

Due to how the US system works, options 2-4 only help Trump

Doubt this claim. Using this logic (voting for 3rd party is a vote for Trump) a vote for 3rd party is a vote for Biden as well. Not voting trump only helps Biden. I won't be voting for Trump or Biden, so i guess by not voting for either I'm voting for both of them and an committing voter fraud so at least you won't have to worry about me in 2028s election as I'll be in jail.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The general logic as I understand it is this: (effectively)No one who might have considered voting Trump is going to vote for anyone else. So folks who defect to a third party vote, especially due to the current Israel/Palestine situation, are assumed to be potential Biden voters by a much wider margin than potential Trump voters. Then you factor in all the R who claim they don't support Trump or what he has wrought, but continue pulling the lever for him and politicians like him because of the R in front of their names. They aren't voting third party either.

That logic may or may not reflect reality, but I think it's what is in most folks' heads when they make that statement.

Thank you, that makes sense.