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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So I go back to my original question, is there a study that says remote work is more productive? Where is the science to back it up? The science should be out there if it is true.

And are you honestly telling me that major companies wouldn't love to sell all their real estate and go full virtual? Why not cut that business expense to save money? Major companies have cut everything else, why not cut this too? Why wouldn't an activist investor start pushing to release this capital as a dividend?

Hell, you can start depressing wages, since you can source your staff from lower QoL places and use those places as your bench mark for pay.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 year ago

I need to read these, but you are the first one to post several articles defending your thesis.

Thank you.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago

First off, thank you for providing. This was the most thorough list of sources given by anyone.

The buisness.com article is based on a survey of remote workers. The survey states that remote workers feel more productive at home and that they work longer hours. This correlates with anecdotal evidence presented here, but it isn't a measure of actual productivity.

The Monitask.com article refers to two studies that make the claim that remote work is more productive, but one study is blocked by a paywall and the other study isn't even linked. There is one article about a call center in China, which the Economist article I've posted notes that later data shows that the work was not as efficient as previously stated.

The ApolloTechnical.com has a lot of good articles, but there are some self reporting surveys. The article does note that not all research indicates increases in productivity, including one study in 2012 and reported in the Journal of Economic Behavior and Organization that found that creative tasks see increases in productivity at home while dull tasks see decreases in productivity; I like this study the most as it seems to do more academic rigor of creating an experiment to study against.

The businessnewsdaily.com article is another survey of remote workers, so no objective study on productivity.

There is some good science in the articles you posted, but there are also a lot of self reported surveys. Given what you presented, I can see someone believing that remote working is always more productive.

That said, there seems to be additional studies being performed that are making the claim more disputed. However, the articles you provide also give other very good reasons why remote work should still be allowed.

[–] new_acct_who_dis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just saw that I have responses to things! New Sync user, don't mind me.

Looks like you got your sources, but wanted to address major companies and real estate. Commercial real estate has way longer leases than residential. And their landlords don't have any incentive to let them break lease early. Who else is going to come rent that space?

Of course these companies want to "make use" of those wasted dollars. Even major companies aren't immune to sunk cost fallacy.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 year ago

Corporate leases are longer than residential ones, but they only go for 3 to 5 years generally. We are seeing a shrinking of leases because of this, which is causing office occupancy rates to plummet. We're seeing companies shift to a hybrid model, but few companies seem to want to go full remote.