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Edit: Jesus Christ, people. If you buy a $150 Thinkpad made by slave labor instead of a $1,200 MacBook made by slave labor, you're still supporting a capitalist economy based on slave labor. We all do. We have no choice. The number of smug liberals in the comments saying "well I buy a cheap used laptop" or "well I buy coffee beans and make my own coffee" are completely missing the fucking point.

Don't tell yourself your consumption is moral. All of us make unethical choices every day because there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Accept your shame and guilt and let it drive you to do better.

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[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Oh, I didn't know you needed apple products, the most monopolistic tech company to exist, to survive. That explains why their fans are so rabbid. I better switch from Linux otherwise I'll die.

[–] WiseThat@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not all that uncommon for workplaces to require a specific OS

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

That's a good point

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"we live in a society".

People are pressured to align with social norms, so the word "survival" in this case is used very expansively. It means not only to continue to exist, but to continue to exist in the social strata you have managed to achieve. ANY such strata comes with standards of quality, and pressures to make choices that align with the group. There are always outliers who cross strata and reject certain things, but that does not mean all of us don't abide in certain cases.

So no, you don't need a Mac, but you may receive pressure from your social group, and may value conformity as a part of your "social survival"

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Maybe she prefers the Apple ecosystem and her social group pressured her to add the stickers

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Or, she got the mac second hand and does indeed oppose capitalism. Wouldn’t explain the starbucks tho…

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

Now you're cookin

[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

While I accept your argument, you're either a juvenile, or an extremely weak willed person to buy a particular brand because your "friends" pressured you to be more like them.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What a rude and uncivil comment.

I'm not discussing "friends" I'm discussing nearly every element of public adult life.

You are not free from social pressures the same way no one is immune from propaganda.

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 2 points 3 months ago

Who said anything about friends? Young people are often pressured to buy a particular tech product by their school.

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago

Monopolistic means there are no other options. That's the definition of monopoly. She needs apple products because they're a monopoly. The refutal is in the words you used.