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Democrats who attack the rich do better in elections. The party should take notice
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Yeah, they know, and it scares them.
There's a reason they sidelined Sanders when he would have easily won in 2016
This has been on my mind every time the DNC tries to position themselves as a party for the people. As far as I'm concerned, they showed their hand, and apparently they thought no one would notice.
There is nowhere to run.
Democrats = the party of the rich
Republicans = the party of the rich
MAGA = the grift of the rich
We’re going to be voting for the lesser evil for at least a few more cycles. Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea not to vote though.
We can be so much more creative than that. There are mountains of actions we can take in addition to voting to change things.
Why should we accept that the only people we can vote for are evil? Every US election has been this way for at least 20 years now. One less than the other everytime (depending on perspective) but if the only options are widely seen as evil, we must do something to change this.
We don’t have to accept it—that’s what primaries are for. But there are people out there who lose the primary and then they just don’t vote—that is the time people should choose the lesser of two evils. Simply not voting is just giving up the tiny shred of control you actually have.
Of course, if you feel strongly about a candidate, it is a good idea to make calls, put up signs, or anything else to help them win. But, as we saw with Bernie, even a massive grassroots effort isn’t always enough.
No. They should not. Stop lecturing people who are fighting something better and start lecturing the people voting for absolute trash in the primaries.
if some people here are any indication, there are a bunch of people who didnt actually notice.
Just remember Bernie's legacy..
https://youtu.be/ZlZaVtCT5HI
As I see it, he won the nomination. More people voted for him, and the super delegates fucked it all up. The party even admitted this back in 1982 that their intention is to prevent "outlier candidates" from securing a nomination. The Democratic Party is very undemocratic until we can toss superdelegates altogether. I say that, but it doesn't appear to have worked for the Republican Party either, they just shrug and toss out all the votes regardless of who won in their caucuses. Look at Ron Paul in Iowa 2008, obviously won by a large enough percentage to eliminate the margin for error...but fuck it. Iowa's Republican chair handed it over anyway and when the news was published he just "resigned" and the damage was already done.
That sentiment that it scares them though, has happened before to BOTH parties. 1890 had both parties on the run as we were embroiled in shooting battles against law enforcement due to working conditions and pay.
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Almost all of the head to head polls Had Bernie doing better than Hillary
He also won the Wisconsin primary and the Michigan primary in spite of the DNC leadership and propaganda machine being firmly behind Hillary from the beginning.
Hillary lost those states, ultimately costing her the election, and there's no indication that Bernie would have lost any of the states she won.
I'm pretty sure Bernie won a lot of primaries. He got 72% of the vote in Washington: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/primaries/washington
Edit: Yeah he won quite a few: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
Yup, he did, and he would have won the general.
They singled out those two states because they were ones Hillary lost in the general