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Democrats who attack the rich do better in elections. The party should take notice
(www.theguardian.com)
They won't. The party exists to serve the rich.
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Yeah, they know, and it scares them.
There's a reason they sidelined Sanders when he would have easily won in 2016
This has been on my mind every time the DNC tries to position themselves as a party for the people. As far as I'm concerned, they showed their hand, and apparently they thought no one would notice.
There is nowhere to run.
Democrats = the party of the rich
Republicans = the party of the rich
MAGA = the grift of the rich
We’re going to be voting for the lesser evil for at least a few more cycles. Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea not to vote though.
We can be so much more creative than that. There are mountains of actions we can take in addition to voting to change things.
Why should we accept that the only people we can vote for are evil? Every US election has been this way for at least 20 years now. One less than the other everytime (depending on perspective) but if the only options are widely seen as evil, we must do something to change this.
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I agree. If a democrat ran up and garroted Jeff Bezos, or went all Tanya Harding on Elon Musk's knees, I would vote for them.
Literally, if a politician was imprisoned for firebombing a billionaires house I would be intrigued by their campaign.
nah, they're gonna make fun of Trump for being broke with childish nicknames instead. sink down to his level while making him sound more relatable to all the broke people they want to vote for them. sometimes i think they're trying to lose.
Generally speaking, they do want to lose. If they actually ran on their universally popular policies, they'd win majorities large enough to where they wouldn't have excuses to not enact their legislative mandate, which is at odds with what their corporate donors want.
This is exactly it. The only thing they truly run on is vote for us or it'll be even worse. They say nice things, but they have no intention of enacting most of them.
Anyone from poor decaying rural America has had enough conversations with republicans with oddly class related philosophies to feel this comment hard
Their campaign is literally "It'll be worse under the other guy."
Losing now is the best way for them to win in four years. It is how it has been for decades. When's the last time one party held the presidency for two consecutive candidates? It's a neverending metronome, except the needle moves more to the right each time.
Assuming that we'll have fair elections in 4 years if Trump wins may prove to be one of the worst mistakes this country's voters have ever made.
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I love how the post I saw immediately before this was about Biden's new Trump insult, 'Broke Don'. So insult your rivals by calling them poor, definitely a good way to relate to struggling voters.
Yeah well Biden doesn't really need to appeal to liberals and progressives when it comes to Trump. However making his idiotic base doubt him by calling me poor little bitch will definitely weaken Trump's position.
For 8 years now his base has been firmly convinced that the mainstream establishment is an enemy of Trump and 'the people'. From what I've seen any words against Trump coming from establishment liberals is more likely to entrench Trumps support than weaken it.
It's pointing out that he is weak. Literally one of the main reasons people liked him was that he "couldn't be bought" and he was going to "self fund his campaign"
Remember, before this they were just saying how scary Trump was. I think mocking him is far more effective
Trumpers are defective high schoolers, winning the name calling game. Is the key for Biden defeating Trump.
No it's not normal or intelligent, but it is Trump's supporters...
However making his idiotic base doubt him by calling me poor little bitch will definitely weaken Trump's position.
Thanks for taking one for the team, poor little bitch.
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"Broke Don" is a masterpiece.
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Consume the wealthy.
Eat the rich.
I keep seeing the press wheeling out example of "the rich" like somebody on £100k who can barely afford their mortgage, like it's my fucking fault they can't live within their means.
Do what the rest of us do, tighten our belts and deal with it. Don't come to me with a sob story about your mortgage on a 4 bedroom detached Surrey house when there's people who can barely afford rent to live in what was once somebody's kitchen.
Middle class is not the same as the rich. Trying to get various groups of not rich people against each other has been a time tested tactic to keep everyone from acting against the rich. First it was race but now it's trying to put the rural vs urban, the less fortunate vs the slightly less fortunate, union vs non union, etc.
Totally agree. Somebody who makes 100k aren't the problem at all, its the people who make salaries with at least a couple of more zeros added to the end. The people that OP should be mad at aren't ever struggling to pay a bill.
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This is a composition effect. Democratic candidates who run for safer, more left-wing constituencies feel free to propose more radical left-wing policies, especially if their main threats are other democrats during primaries. They then go on to win because they're not running in competitive elections. You can use the same reasoning to conclude that Republicans who attack abortion and socialism do better in elections.
I don't buy it. Red states hate billionaires even more than blue states. Centrist Democrats have nothing to offer to Republican voters to change their minds. Progressives speak directly to the economic issues that plague red states.
I mean, red states elected a billionaire because he was a billionaire.
But Centrist Democrats think that if they just kick progressives harder, they'll gain the favor of the three remaining moderate Republicans.
They elected a billionaire because he attacked other billionaires. He voices their rage at the "elitists" in Washington, and he pretends to be one of them.
I think they hate the "generic billionaire", but are they any actual billionaires they hate?
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Red states hate billionaires even more than blue states
(citation needed)
But they won’t, because once they get into Congress they get just as tied to big money as any other politician. Plus, there all too busy trying to chase after Republican voters, even though they’ll never, ever vote for a Democrat.
Doesn't matter if they don't actually do anything though...
Why multiple mics from the same station?
A few things, more exposure/advertising space, and redundancy, especially in a time where mics were really inconsistent, if one mic goes down, you have another still recording.
So they can broadcast *in stereo*
I need my binaural audio of a political speech so I can hear them lying in dolby 7.1
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