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It's not even like this is a random position only seen on Lemmy from perpetual detractors. The person you're responding to literally gave you quotes from Latino public figures and advocacy organizations. But yeah, your ~~black~~ undocumented friend totally makes you a convincing authority on which immigrant rights positions are coming from the community.
I make no claim to authority; I'm explaining what I think and why, including why I think juicy is lying. Maybe my experience with probably-shills has made me jaded but that's what I think.
You're obviously within your rights to think that Ramirez, Chuy García, or the Immigrant Justice Center are right and I am wrong about why Biden said "illegal". I think the transcript speaks for itself and I think they're being foolish and self-defeating if they're falling into the trap of attacking him over it.
It's not a matter of whether they're right, it's a direct contradiction to your insinuation that this is a fake sentiment coming from "outside the community". And those weren't even the Latino only congressmembers who objected to it.
Maybe cool off on the "he's lying" when you're trying to claim that a pretty well recognized anger over a Democratic president adopting conservative framing and policy for the border is astroturfing using "I had a friend" as your justification.
Yeah, that’s honestly a fair point. I assumed that 100% of serious immigration advocates would recognize it for the bullshit that it is, so that feeding into this transparent grandstanding mythology about what Biden said and meant and neglecting to observe his actual record on the issues would be a tell of someone who wasn’t a real advocate for immigrants, but apparently that’s not true. Live and learn, I guess.