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[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can't really engage as a consumer without enabling shitty practices on some level, and that's particularly true of electronics.

The phone you're using to access Beehaw? Assembled by child labor or wage slaves somewhere in Asia. Even if you assembled it yourself, the parts were manufactured unethically.

It's not just Amazon or Nestle. You might as well criticize someone for breathing because unethical consumption, on some level, is inevitable, particularly so if you live in a capitalist country.

I use Brave because its ad block feature works better than the others I've tried, plain and simple.

But, by all means, people can still be as holier than thou as they like.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

The phone you're using to access Beehaw? Assembled by child labor or wage slaves somewhere in Asia. Even if you assembled it yourself, the parts were manufactured unethically.

which is one of the reasons why I own a Fairphone.

and sure, you can't avoid all bad choices, but everyone draws a line somewhere. and when a techbro makes a techbroy post about how eVErYThiNg iS pOLiTiCiZeD ThESe dAyS and how that's supposedly stopping innovation, because people like me don't want him to work with a guy with a history of opposing our rights, then I stop having confidence in him and cancel my subscription because I don't want to support him financially anymore.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 5 points 3 months ago

Don't get me wrong. I do the best I can to be ethical in my choices, but it's just a pet peeve of mine to see people behaving in a holier-than-thou when it's simply impossible to achieve what they're pretending to achieve.

[-] TehPers@beehaw.org 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

people like me don't want him to work with a guy with a history of oppressing our rights

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but what search do you use that relies on a more ethical index? I don't use SearXNG, but as far as I can tell, even something like that relies on other indices, like Google, Bing, and Brave (which seems to be configurable). Are you suggesting you use a different index that comes from a more ethical company, or do you just not like Vlad's response?

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Are you suggesting you use a different index that comes from a more ethical company

I don't, I use a mixture of Startpage and DDG, but I'm always for a lookout for other options and also don't sign up for a subscription to throw my money at them every month.