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submitted 1 year ago by taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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It's a liberal cesspool full of people who refuse to listen when you speak. I explained how the SMO in Russia was justified going all the way back to fucking WWII and Stepan Bandera to Russia not wanting Ukraine in NATO and some dickhead told me to "tOuCH gRaSS". Didn't even address any of my points, just that "dEnAziFIcaTioN iSnT a gOoD rEasOn, iT's aS bAd aS wMDs".

Fucking moron. I hate that fucking place so fucking much.

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[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Were they not on the cusp of joining before Russia invaded? I thought that was one of the reasons for the invasion, to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO?

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There has been talk for years. But it never went anywhere and was never going to. I don’t remember right off hand why ( I just woke up and my brain is still foggy) but I do know it was never going to happen. Putin just wanted more land and believed that since NATO was never going to vote to have Ukraine join, it was going to be a quick conflict and the thing would be over. He took Crimea and the world did nothing. If it worked once why wouldn’t it work again?

Man was he wrong.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does the civil war factor in?

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because if Ukraine is part of NATO and Ukraine is being invaded then NATO basically has to directly join in the fight. Which means direct conflict between NATO and Russia. That is never a good idea.

And there is no civil war. Well no more then there is in the US. There are certain groups in the US that want to break away. Obviously that won’t happen. They never gain any real traction.

In Ukraine they wouldn’t have gained traction either , but Russia decided to back and also arm the separatists. That was done for the sole purpose of giving Russia an excuse to invade and annex Crimea.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

In Ukraine they wouldn’t have gained traction either , but Russia decided to back and also arm the separatists

So it's okay for NATO to arm Ukraine, but it's not okay for Russia to arm people who are being killed by their own government?

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You're missing some facts here. There was a civil war. 14,000 people killed. 30,000 injured. 1.3+million displaced. All reported by the UN.