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[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Its even more misleading that you would count the fossil fuels used by other companies towards the producer. You can't decrease the emissions by doing anything about these companies (without collapsing the whole economy), you need to transition the consumers to different energy sources.

It is like saying the Water companies are responsible for 100% of water usage...

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I agree and the market is not offering an affordable, equally capable alternative to combustion engines. EVs are a larp for anyone who needs to do more than just commute to and from work. (e.g. long distance travel, towing, hauling)

This is the best idea I've seen for hauling. It's also basically open source.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is the best idea I’ve seen for hauling. It’s also basically open source.

Electrified rail will always be superior. We don't need to reinvent the wheel, we already have the tech to switch over to low carbon/carbon neutral transportation.

With that said, I'd still 100% prefer something like that over diesel, especially if used in conjunction with this tech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3P_S7pL7Yg

Trains should be the overwhelming majority of the transportation, with the last mile being electrified trucks.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Electrified rail is great if it's available but it's more than often not. In the absence of the electrified tracks trains use a diesel generator electric engine hybrid to haul which isn't terrible imo. Trains are just a part of the logistical puzzle though. Trucking is THE way things get from point A to point B in the US and it's not going away anytime soon. The kind of infrastructure required for the solution in your video is cool but to your point probably needs to be paired with some hybrid technology so trucks can still thrive in flyover country where building and maintaining electric highway infrastructure isn't pragmatic.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Electrified rail is great if it’s available but it’s more than often not.

Trucking is THE way things get from point A to point B in the US and it’s not going away anytime soon.

I am aware of the current situation, the "is", I was instead talking about the "ought".

We currently depend on trucking and diesel trains, but we ought to switch to electrified rail and truck.

The kind of infrastructure required for the solution in your video is cool

It's cool, and a huge change. A necessary change though.

probably needs to be paired with some hybrid technology so trucks can still thrive in flyover country where building and maintaining electric highway infrastructure isn’t pragmatic.

For rural areas, trains are the way to go. They are faster, lower carbon emission, and all round lower energy requirements per unit of freight.

The only real problem with them is hills, which isn't exactly a problem for the majority of the U.S.