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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 62 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This just in: few companies supply energy to our planet.

This shouldn’t surprise anyone. These are massive conglomerates that will keep pumping as long as the demand exists

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

These are massive conglomerates that will keep demand high by attacking alternative energy sources, funding climate denial, and engaging in sanctioned corruption.

[–] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

And (artificially) lowering fossil fuel prices, if we tax the shit out of oil companies, people will start looking for alternatives.

[–] hannes3120@feddit.de 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah - those headlines do more harm than good as people will just point fingers and think it's enough to shut those companies down in order to fix climate change...

As long as there's demand other companies will step in and then instead of those few you have 10-20 supplying the same amount of oil with nothing gained

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

subsidy and investment on green energy are great ideas to cut the cycle. they could be doing that.

instead we subsidy and invest in fossil fuels instead...

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 56 points 7 months ago
[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 27 points 7 months ago (16 children)
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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (3 children)

No no it’s regular people not putting plastic take-out containers in the recycling bin doing it!

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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

They also knew about climate change in the 1970s and deliberately hid that information and spent massive amounts of money to attack anyone who tried to blow the whistle.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

Of course and what is it that they want you to do? Just cut your food intake, eat lab meat, lab milk, bugs, and live in a shoebox. When food production in the USA is 9% of all carbon emissions. And out of those 9%, less than 3.8% is meat. While the cruise ship industry is 3.3% of total, worldwide.

Meanwhile, our CEO's, their boards, and their extended families, and largest stockholders go on, out on yatchs, zipping around in private jets, go to massive, endless, exorbitant decadent private events and eat whatever they want, whenever they want, because... suck it, pleb.

[–] redhydride@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And then they go online asking you to reduce your carbon footprint. It's a joke

[–] exanime 6 points 7 months ago
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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

All fine and good except those 57 companies encompass 80% of all fossil fuel business right?

I'm not saying it doesn't need to be fixed, but I am saying that it's misleading.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think the takeaway is that it's a lot easier to change the behavior of 57 companies than it is to change the behavior of billions of people and it's bullshit that individual action is the only proposed solution to climate change under capitalism.

Not just that, but individual action among a sea of intentional obfuscation, green washing, and while still pushing overconsumption.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

That's a nice dream. I hope it can come true, but those 57 companies also own 90% of the US Congress and probably a large swath of the governments in 2nd and third-world countries. The people that need to make them stop are almost literally on their payroll.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Focusing on those 57 companies doesn't really address that issue though.

These companies sell fossil fuels. If they actually reduce those sales in any significant way we'd still have to figure out how to get all their customers switched to other fuel sources.

There's a huge demand for their product so when we go after one of them the others take their place and they're collectively too big to take on all at once.

The most successful strategy seems to be to make them obsolete. We've finally been getting to the point where many renewable energy sources are cheaper than fossil fuels. The other big motivator is fear of the control that oil producing nations might have. There's some element of individual action but it's more about government policies and market pressure. Take China or the EU, for example. They've been shifting heavily away from fossil fuels. Some of that is likely due to the increasing domestic and international concerns about pollution. They're also both net oil importers.

That may be boring stuff to most people but it really gets the attention of governments that don't want to be at the mercy of oil exporters. The kind of attention that gets meaningful laws passed.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Its even more misleading that you would count the fossil fuels used by other companies towards the producer. You can't decrease the emissions by doing anything about these companies (without collapsing the whole economy), you need to transition the consumers to different energy sources.

It is like saying the Water companies are responsible for 100% of water usage...

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[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Let's not forget about the US military which is the number 1 polluter in the world

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Most of the world's carbon emissions come from burning fossil fuels, so, yes, it would be those fossil fuel producers who would be linked to those emissions. I suppose we could all come together and force those companies to shut down and cease operations immediately. Global greenhouse gas emissions would plummet, but the global economy would collapse and there would be mass starvation and death.

[–] msage@programming.dev 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, lets start by building food sources as much removed from oil as possible.

Invest into low-energy housing.

Continue with green energy.

Stop building everything else.

Forget about economy, planned obsolence, and start discussing distribution of natural resources and investing into science.

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

They're the ones who have kept us from putting anything else in place though.

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[–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

China needs to move away from coal. This would be a huge change in global emissions.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Why are they counting emissions at extraction and not consumption?

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