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The whole internet loves Kagi, a lovely paid search engine that can find things! 5 seconds later We regret to inform you the CEO is an unhinged narcissist who will harangue you in email (hackers.town)

submitted 7 months ago by dgerard@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

I was about to jump off DuckDuckGo as its also going down, was going to go for kagi, in very much reconsidering that now... But then what?

Running your own personal search engine might be a bit much to chew off for most people, but is there a good open source federated search engine out there that I can contribute a server to, perhaps?

Edit: and before anyone ironically says "Google that yourself", I already searched and found a lot of blog posts, GitHub projects, but nothing concrete, no "that's the one!" Project that is and open source and federated...

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 7 months ago

clearly, finding things is not a good idea

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

a good open source federated search engine out there that I can contribute a server to

I’d love to contribute to something like this. it might even make for a good replacement for lemmy’s awful built-in search

[–] thunderfist@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Check out searxng

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

looks interesting. got any experience with it / any references you can share? don't think I've run across it before

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

also suddenly remembering magellan, dogpile, etc

fuck that was a long time ago

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

https://search.marginalia.nu/

never used it, mind, but author has written a lot about its development.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago

retvrn to archie

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A federated search engine sounds terrible tbh, how would that even work?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why terrible?

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you’re right

the other poster was most likely trying to stir up shit given we’re on a federated network (see also their other post), but I have been obsessed with the idea of a federated search engine this weekend

it’s definitely a worthwhile idea, but anything that does federated indexing will have to deal with moderation and abuse prevention first. those are hard problems in ordinary federated networks, but search engines specifically are targets of hostile SEO and spam in ways that few other systems are. those aren’t insurmountable problems though — just ones that need to be solved before federation is practical.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I dunno. Google is currently overwhelmed by SEO optimized crap (at least I guess so, I stopped using it years ago because of that) and I think a federated system where members have different prioritizations would make SEO optimization very very hard to abuse.

[–] self@awful.systems 2 points 7 months ago

I hope so! this is something I’d like to implement, once I’ve got some free deployment resources and time.