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[–] vger@lemmy.ml 67 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Almost all the Lemmy instances consist of imperial core labor aristocrats. They're Western chauvanists. Many of them are tech bros. Many lack class consciousness. They have poor media literacy skills while believing they have excellent skills. They consume their governments' and corporate media's propaganda uncritically, unaware that they’re being propagandized. Many of them are as rabidly anticommunist now as people were during the first Cold War.

They'll regurgitate:

  • pooh bear
  • tiananmen square
  • hong kong
  • famine
  • uyghur genocide
  • secret police stations
  • spy balloons
  • tiktok
  • havana syndrome
  • social media bots
  • taiwan
  • nine dash line
  • ghost cities
  • tibet
  • secret imprisonments & assassinations
  • great firewall
  • social credit score
  • technology theft
  • debt trap diplomacy
  • han superiority/replacement theory
[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ghost cities is so fucking funny because it's such an ape looking at monolith moment. A capitalist looks at a pre-planned modern city, with brand new apartment towers and state of the art infrastructure, and sees only a failure to maximize profits by gouging people for low-quality housing.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

The Han Chinese one is something I wasn't even aware of but have had people mention to me previously. Where does that come from, exactly? Also, the "social credit score" one tickles a brainworms still, I know it's likely nothing like how it was described to me in the past, but I don't even know what the reality behind that one is.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Social credit scores, in so far as they aren't just a fabrication, are a way of policing businesses to keep them from doing anti-social practices. Private citizens don't have any kind of "state loyalty score," just a normal criminal record (or lack of one, of course)

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Got it, and considering every American believes themselves to be some temporarily embarrassed millionaire, they extrapolate that to mean ME, they want ME to have a social credit score!

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

It's not even that, they have no idea about it being for businesses. They just imagine the 1984 stasi assigning every individual citizen a numeric value that represents how the government judges them and then rewarding or penalizing them accordingly. It's seriously just a myth that people believe because "some guy said so" is all they need to believe something bad about China.

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Funny, I was just denied housing today due to my social credit score being too low. I live in America by the way

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

I'm sorry to hear that, Patriot. Please approach the pew and give Ronald Reagan nine Hail Marys and eleven Pledges of Allegiance.

[–] vger@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don’t think Han supremacy/replacement theory has a singular origin. I think it comes from a confluence of:

  • Chinese state imperialism theory
  • Recycling of white supremacist great replacement theory
  • Projection of white supremacy itself
  • Rolling up Tibet/Uyghur/Hong Kong into one big undifferentiated ball of Han/CPC oppression


In fact quite the opposite has been happening thanks to China's affirmative action policies

[–] someone@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

Many of them are tech bros.

This is why I'm a big advocate for genuinely easy-to-install, easy-to-maintain, self-hosted web services. Otherwise we leave the web largely in the hands of the techbros and the corporations.

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)