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Serious question, would Jan 6 be allowed to happen anywhere else?
I'm glad people, even if only private citizens so far, have been charged and convicted, even if it's just a slap on the wrist. I'm hoping very much that at least some officials are held responsible as well. We can't expect any leader, any public servant, any police officer, or even any citizen to redirect the law if we don't hold people equally accountable.
We also need to announce to the world that we won't tolerate certain behavior. We can't go around acting terrible and get upset when all of a sudden someone decides to partner with Russia or China instead. If we want to be a respected partner with other countries, we have to respect ourselves and hold everyone accountable equally.
Yes, except on a level which actually has some non-laughable chance of succeeding—and which often even does succeed. Often facilitated by the U.S. itself. 2014 in Ukraine, for example, and all over Latin America, and...well, pay attention to West Africa right now, because most if not all of the coups taking place are being carried out by military forces that were trained by the U.S. If you think the clown show of Jan 6 was actually some kind of "threat to democracy" then you REALLY need to start paying attention to what the U.S. has been doing at home in smaller communities, and big-time abroad, for a very, very, very long time.
Kinda weird IMHO to equate military coups orchestrated by the US against local and Soviet interests (in Latin America), with military coups against the US and France and local interests but toward Russia (in the Sahel), with a popular uprising supported but not instigated by the US (Euromaidan).
But regardless, the US is a serial offender here.
Very true, I should have specified places we'd generally consider world powers. If we're doing apples to apples comparisons between the US and Niger or Honduras, the battle would already be lost.