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[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I will not be able to go through the entire quote right now, so I will do so later. For now, I'd like to address the last part of your reply with my reply to another comment in this thread:

That seems to be a roughly correct assessment of what idealism is if we replace the word 'reality' with 'material part of reality' (because non-material part of reality is still a part of reality). However, I see a couple of issues with the assessment of Marxism as supposedly being a materialist and anti-idealist school of thought:

  1. I'm not sure what the argument is for how the ideas encountered in math depend on material part of reality. There is no such dependency as far as I can see as a person with a background in mathematics.
  2. I am not aware of any Marxist positions that are in conflict with idealism. If there are such positions, I'm all ears.

Note that the middle part of this reply is just hastily copied from elsewhere. I did not edit it in case there are some relevant positions covered in the quote.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Idealism is when you have ideas and the more you have the more idealist it is. And if you have really high level important ideas then it’s Platonism

socialism-is-when

PS it’s bad form to not read someone’s reference and proceed to “reply” with a canned response. If you don’t have the time to respond say so and use that comment as a reminder for when you do have time.

I will actually address your points when I get back from a doc appt

Edit: this looks like something I'll want to make into a separate effort post. Will tag you when it's done.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

Please tag me too!

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

PS it’s bad form to not read someone’s reference and proceed to “reply” with a canned response

I did not have the time to consider the entirety of the reply, and I felt that there was a part that should have been clarified. Considering that I already had an answer that I could have used for that purpose at the time, and was lacking time to properly write a full response, I judged that option as appropriate.

Will be waiting for the promised post. Do consider that it might take me some time to go over it, as I will both be getting busier starting tomorrow and I am experiencing some stress discussing this, in particular because people might think as if I'm just trying to argue for arguing's sake in this case or that I am trying to be rude.