Having worked in the industry, and with the company that owns the Guinness brand specifically, it's really not. Again, you may not personally be a fan, but you seem to struggle with objectivity on this one.

Even many of the others aren't that bad. Light lagers are surprisingly tricky to produce consistently, since their lighter flavors mean that any flaws are much harder to hide.

[–] TwoCubed@feddit.de -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: I redacted my comment as I don't want to expose too much. Let's just say most brewer's I work together with have a passionate distaste for Guinness, mainly for the brewing process. But that may also be the elitist mindset of German brewers.

I agree with the light lagers sentiment though. I personally despise them but the brewing knowhow behind them is pretty extensive.

Anywho, it all boils down to personal taste and I can find better beers in most of these regions (haven't been to all yet).

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So it's literally that you just cannot work your mind around separating personal preferences from more objective statements. Good to know.

[–] TwoCubed@feddit.de -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure.

Guinness isn't considered good in the industry, plus I dislike the taste. I like the company behind it though. There we go. Shit like the American Budweiser or Beck's is difficult to brew, but tastes like shit. Taste can be an objective thing too, hence why there are beer sommeliers. But sure, if insulting me makes you happy, I'm fine with that. Have a pleasant day mate!

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I agree that, of those shown here that I have tried, these beers are mostly in the inoffensive 4-6 out of 10 range. Like most things produced primarily for popularity over the art of the craft they intentionally do not push any boundries.

Would you list off some beers that you think are good representations of the brewing art from your perspective.