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[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I follow your question, but capitalists don't pay the total value (IE wages + surplus value), they only pay wages, and there is an international average price of labor power, especially in this globalized world where capital and productive equipment can move freely between borders.

[–] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm saying the definition you gave refers to "per capita value produced by the working class as a whole" but then you cite median household income (I'm guessing, since the source I found says ~2920/yr for that) as the cutoff value for labor aristocracy vs not. Those aren't the same thing.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I didn't cite median household income. That number is the average wage rate for male workers (in PPP 2007 USD dollars) according to the ILO.

[–] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, I guessed since you didn't say, but still, wages don't include the entire "value produced by the working class" so I don't understand how it applies; like how is "adjusted average wage rate for male workers" a better way to measure said value, than say, ppp adjusted GDP per capita (or other measures that incorporate more than just wages)?

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

okay, GDP is a shitty measure, but the core point is that the measure you cite doesn't line up with the supposedly very basic straightforward definition you offered. That's what I don't get.

Edit: and also, I'm talking about global gdp per capita, not gdp per capita in each country, so unequal distribution wouldn't even matter, as long as the total amount figure is still meaningful.