this post was submitted on 15 May 2024
606 points (95.8% liked)

News

23387 readers
2060 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Y'all wanna do a poll for context? Hope that's allowed, since pretty sure updoots means nothing on Lemmy. Apologies if not, anyway here I go:

Is trans a slur? Updoot the corresponding comment to cast your vote, or downdoot to be a troll I guess idk

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think it's funny that you want to do a poll for context but your question itself is context-dependent. Any quality of any human, inherent or adopted, can be a slur in the proper context.

Is 'trans' a slur when it's Elliot Page talking about himself? No.

Is 'trans' a slur when a bigot calls someone 'trans' to insult them because they think being trans is worthy of contempt? Yes.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is beautiful. Shutting down the discourse completely by virtue of being inarguably correct. I applaud this comment.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 3 points 6 months ago

oh no the amazingly useful discussion has been shut down by ... examining its premises! Truly a disgrace to online discourse.

[–] casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You illustrated the point better than I had the energy to do-- I simply don't care enough to be that eloquent because the majority of what I get is nonsense in return. So instead of wasting my time, I chose to take the lazy route and encourage people to come to a consensus on this one key point so that the point you made would become irrefutable.

Neither trans nor cis are slurs by default, but anything can be a slur if used in a derogatory manner-- I think some comedian had a bit about this, but I can't recall who and I'm sure even if I did there's a good chance someone would give me a nasty label for saying such comedian made a good point....

But the same people that say trans can be a slur, cannot deny in good faith that cis cannot be a slur. They are both simple classifiers with no basis on prejudice. But some people will still argue they are slurs simply because they are used prominently in derogatory contexts.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

That's not the issue. The issue is that Twitter acts like it is automatically considered a slur, rather than something that is only a slur in certain contexts.

There's also the matter of Twitter doing very little about the Nazis on its platform other than giving them a boost.