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[–] blazera@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

infrastructure bill is just climate change acceleration. More roads, more SUV's.

This meme's missing the genocide arming, strike busting, and affordable EV banning

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Also, their much touted climate change bill is almost entirely just handing out money to wealthy for profit companies (including fucking oil and gas companies for carbon capture programs that probably won't work) and hoping they do good things with it, instead of just prohibiting them from doing bad things like we should be doing

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would say arming Israel is now squarely on Congress.

In this case Joe Biden did not want to restart shipments but was forced by a Congressional resolution.

Here is a Reuters article covering the resolution, here is the house press release, here is the Congressional voting record.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Biden used emergency powers to bypass congress on shipping missiles to Israel before. This resolution is in range of veto, also holy shit what a title.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

He used his powers to bypass the Congressional approval process and then has since been against shipping weapons most likely because of the blowback.

While he could veto this resolution given the overwhelming support by Congress it would only cause a short term delay.

Congress at that level of approval has the right to override a presidential veto and given that it was done with the express purpose of spiting the president's orders I don't think it would do much good.

I will never understand why people are so keen on laying this entirely at the presidency.

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While he could veto this resolution given the overwhelming support by Congress it would only cause a short term delay.

So why not do that then? Why not veto it and show he doesn't want more weapons sent to Israel? If you're so afraid of the inevitable "people will just vote for it anyways," why not just roll over and let Trump have his second term?

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Because it's an ultimately pointless gesture if you read both those articles.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I will never understand why people are so keen on laying this entirely at the presidency.

Because how else will they get their long-awaited second Trump presidency, if not by playing Bothsides(tm) games with Biden?

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You've inhaled your own facts too frequently if you think everyone critical of Biden and the democrats want a Trump presidency.

It's Biden's to lose and he keeps making choices to ensure it happens. Stop expecting blind support because only Trump gets it.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago

You’ve inhaled your own facts too frequently if you think everyone critical of Biden and the democrats want a Trump presidency.

Okay, what about everyone here saying that voting for Biden is literally genocide and that they could never do it and anyone who does is a murderer?

Do they want a Trump presidency, or do they have a super secret plan up their sleeve we normies are too indoctrinated to see?

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Scary how right this seems with every passing day, I don't like to be reductive but most people here can't be reasoned with

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

Most people on here can be reasoned with. But once you start learning usernames, you notice who the loud ones are.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's in the infrastructure bill?

We'll wait.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

About 54 percent ($643 billion) of the law’s $1.2 trillion total goes toward surface transportation, into a massive five-year authorization (through 2026) of federal transportation law that’s nearly twice the size of the FAST Act that it replaces. The rest goes toward other non-surface transportation infrastructure needs. Two-thirds ($432 billion) of that $643 billion is flowing to conventional highway programs. And when compared to the previous five-year law, the new infrastructure bill increases highway program funding by 90 percent, transit funding by 79 percent, and rail infrastructure funding by 750 percent.

As i read it, that says 2/3 of 54% is surface transportation, including rail and bridges etc. so roughly $425B out of 1.2T. So, not mostly highways.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A plurality for highways. By a large margin the largest recipient of funds from the bill.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

plurality /ploo͝-răl′ĭ-tē/

noun

  1. The state or fact of being plural. 
  2. A large number or amount; a multitude.

Had to look it up. So you agree you were mistaken that it was “mostly” or all related to fossil-fuel vehicle infrastructure? Or at least it’s not mostly highways then?

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Plurality also means receiving the most out of all recipients but without receiving a majority. Like our elections.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There was some stuff for rehabilitating our rail corridors. Not enough, of course, but it was there.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

oh sure there's things in it that could be considered beneficial to the climate. all vastly outweighed by the climate damage of the hundreds of billions going to highways.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's the infrastructure bill, not the climate change bill. Which, btw, Biden passed the largest climate change bill in world history but you just keep trying to convince people that Biden bad.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It is a climate change bill, its accelerating climate change.

Dont worry i know about that other bill too, the one that opened up millions of acres of new oil drilling