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Biden: what would Trump have done if the Capitol riots had been led by Black Americans?
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This person will be at the front of the line to have their citizenship stripped & exiled if Trump is elected.
If you don't think Trump will do it & SCotUS will allow it, you're a dangerous moron.
Would you care about that if Trumps opponent was providing weapons and diplomatic cover to the people exterminating your entire extended family back home?
Actually think about that before blindly answering yes.
Imagine the trauma of losing your entire family. Knowing the children suffered horribly before dying. Knowing that the ones who followed Israels movement orders starved to death.
If you can't understand why that would cause people to hate Biden, regardless of his opponent, then you have so little human empathy that it makes you incompetent at gauging the strategic outcomes of your actions.
It also makes you a shitty human without empathy.
"You should vote your emotions" is the absolute dumbest possible take.
Also, I can empathize with someone & still be aware they are making a stupid decision.
People will do so anyway. Pro-genocide centrists would rather lose than take that into account.
Lose to who?
The guy that already banned Muslims from entering the country once & has plans to strip birthright citizenship & exile brown folk?
Sounds like you want the Palestinians in the USA to get to enjoy the conditions that their relatives are living in first hand.
I'm trying to talk them out of making a stupid emotional mistake that will quite literally end their everything.
And somehow, you still think you care more. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why don't you people understand that you calling them dumb isn't going to override the sitting President sending bombs to kill their family? Do you actually want Biden to win or do you just want to be able to gloat if he loses?
Not voting for the person who could have single handedly stopped the slaughter of your entire family but didn't isn't 'voting your emotions'
I can't imagine anyone but a sociopath writing that.
EDIT: the stupid choice is voting for someone that wants a genocide committed. If a system is only capable of supplying two genocidiers, then it isn't a system worth defending.
Also, putting morality aside for a moment, but nothing is stupider than assisting in the genocide of a people whom make up a required component of your coalition.
Reminder: Biden doesn't win the swing States without Muslim support. This is a self own. Blaming anyone else for this is a case of victim blaming.
I guess you missed when Biden attempted that & was overruled by the GOP in Congress?
Because Congress controls the purse? Slept thru Civics, did we?
BTW, we can all plainly see that you're pulling out all the "emotional manipulation" stops here, but fortunately, you're very, very bad at it.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/politics/house-israel-weapons-bill-vote/index.html
In particular:
Read that second paragraph again and tell me where the lie is? Why do you think the bill passed in the house, that hasn't passed the Senate, or been signed by the president or been passed with a veto-proof majority would have any effect.
Explain what you think I said was wrong.
Slept through Civics, did we?
I get that you want to pretend Biden's hands are tied when they aren't, but that only passed the house.
Jesus Christ. The only one that slept through civics and didn't read their own posts here is you.
Congress didn't overrule Biden. The house voted for something that hasn't, and won't, be able to pass the Senate. Nothing has happened here yet.
Congress controls the purse strings, yes, and the executive branch is responsible for the implementation. Biden absolutely could have told the Israelis to stop at any point, with actual consequences such as removing the fleet from the red sea, promising not to support them against Iran, stop weapons shipments that due to the Lehy law we actually are legally required to stop. All could be done by the executive.
Stop being condescending about topics you apparently know nothing about.
LOL, Reduced to "I know you are, but what am I"? Seriously?
This is the fleet that just got done building the humanitarian aid pier. What a fucking brilliant idea!
https://rollcall.com/2024/05/16/house-passes-bill-to-require-ongoing-flow-of-weapons-to-israel/
By all means, keep up the lies. We are educating people here, whether you like it or not. 🤣🤣🤣
The Pentagon press secretary announced today that not a single article of aid that has passed through that pier made it to Gazans.
It's been operating for five days and cost an estimated 320 million and its done fuck all.
So, yeah, it would actually be a good thing. Did you actually believe Biden meant for that pier to do anything?
Did you believe that like you believe the House alone could pass laws?
Or do you only respond when you haven't been proven wrong on something you double down on while insulting others for?
How's that Pier doing?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/politics/house-israel-weapons-bill-vote/index.html
In particular:
By all means, keep having zero reading comprehension skills.
Tell me what the first sentence of that second paragraph says. Does it say that it needs to pass the Senate, and that Biden would then veto it? Does that, in fact, match exactly what I said? Huh. How about that.
Also, is lying about Israel your work? You get paid for this?
EDIT: Nice editing out of you saying this was your work.
WAR OF THE EDITS APPARENTLY: I posted a reputable source pointing out that what I said, that you said was lying, is actually correct. Learn to read.
LOL, I suggest you read some of my other recent posts about what I think should be done with BiBi, desperado.
I'm not the one who described this as my work, and then edited it out.
Also, was I right about that bill not doing anything? Do you want to tell me how CNN doesn't understand civics?
What do you think that pier will do?
The problem isn't the number of ports. The problem is the Israelis aren't letting the aid in.
The Israelis are going to be in control of the shipments that eventually will cross that pier, too.
So, tell me what problem that existed that the pier would fix, that wouldn't have been fixed easier by just increasing shipments through the land ports.
Please, educate me here.
LOL, no.
Bibi needs to be strung up right along side the leaders of Hamas in the Hague.
I'd just sooner kill myself than vote for the open christofascist, Trump.
And because I have more than three brain cells to rub together, I understand how FPtP voting works.
How's that for your propaganda, clownshoes?