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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 163 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] norbert@kbin.social 156 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

Yeah a lot of people might not be aware just how heinous Japans actions were in The Second Sino-Japanese War (the Chinese War of Resistance) in the lead-up to Asias involvement in WWII.

The Rape of Ninjing and Unit 731 are just two of the atrocities we know of.

Implying that Japan is now "back for more" and with frens this time is indeed pretty dark.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think that's probably true - Japan has such a sanitized reputation now (which, frankly, isn't entirely deserved), and most people probably don't ever take a history class after high school, so a lot of people probably genuinely don't know how bad it was. I did a little over 3 years of an undergrad history major and never heard a word about it. The only reason I know anything about it is because my AP US History teacher in high school told a few of us about it after a class on WWII. I had nightmares about some of the pictures for a few nights. I see why they don't generally teach it to kids.

[–] Titou@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Let me correct you, only otakus didn't known. Japan is known to be worst than germany in thoses old times

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 months ago

Comfort Women are up there too. Japan was twisted af

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Yeah a lot of people might not be aware just how heinous Japans actions were in The Second Sino-Japanese War

Or at a thousand other points in their history with China.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 17 points 5 months ago

I only recently learned about Unit 731 and I wish I hadn't. It's that fucking bad. Shit keeps me up at night if I allow myself to think about it.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A group of humans so bad the nazis saved people from them

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

The funny thing about John Rabe is that he was probably the only Nazi in any sort of power after The Night of the Long Knives to think they were still a socialist party, because he was off chilling in China and everyone forgot about him.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Yeah a lot of people might not be aware just how heinous Japans actions were in The Second Sino-Japanese War

Unless if you're from Asia.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Let's not forget the entire colonization of Korea.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's actually their Navy flag that's still in use

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if Germany still used the Nazi flag.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Their Navy flag predates the rise of State Shinto and Imperial Japan. It's not really the same thing

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The swastika predates Nazi Germany, but is forever tarnished by it. In Asia, the flag of Imperial Japan is often seen as a symbol of fascism, Imperialism, and war crimes.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are actually efforts to reclaim the swastika for cultural reasons predating the Nazis. It's not hard to tell a Nazi swastika from a Hindu one

Behind the Bastards did a two part episode on the history of it.

I know what the Rising Sun flag means in Asia. I'm just saying that they're not quite the same thing.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

More power to them for trying to reclaim it! It was stolen anyways.

The difference with Imperial Japan is that the flag is still being used by the same group that committed war crimes. The Rising Sun can't simply be reclaimed, unlike the Swastika.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Point being is that there's a reasonable reason for the Japanese Naval flag to be in a Japanese Naval meme. If you want at reason to think the meme wasn't made in good faith, I'd be more worried about how the Japanese guy is holding a machete to the other guy's throat. That actually does conjure up ideas about WWII war crimes.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol imagine being so edgy that NCD says "pump the brakes bruh."

Apparently this is more controversial than mommy milkers on an airplane.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

It is safe to assume the militarysexual status already comes with the territory.