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I'm mostly downloading fairly recently released stuff, so there's no shortage of torrents on public trackers.
I also don't want any payment details associated with anything not explicitly legal, so that'd be a further deterrent from Usenet. Sure, I could use crypto, but even that links me to a wallet that might someday be traced back to me, so I'll pass.
I have wondered this as well. Seems like it is pretty linked.
Tbf, Usenet and indexers are strictly speaking, legal.
Right, but whatever I'm doing on there really isn't.
As a matter of fact my current jurisdiction doesn't even pursue copyright infringements, but I still don't want to be linked to anything commonly seen as shady.
Fair enough, I was under the impression that if you are using SSL, all an ISP or VPN provider could see is that you are connected to whichever backbone provider you were connected to. I.e. The content of what you are downloading is encrypted.
You could be downloading stuff that is not illegal, and I don't think that is necessarily knowable by anyone except yourself.
I may be way off here, I'm not an IT person, but that was my understanding of SSL.
I'd say as a general rule any encryption can be cracked, but usually it is not worth the time and effort to do so.
This is incorrect. What you'd are doing while purely downloading is legal.
Bit torrent exposes you to liability not because you are downloading but because you're sharing which courts have decided is distributing/performing, no matter how small the block you upload.
This is not an issue with Usenet.
And you say that knowing my jurisdiction and its applicable laws?
Wait, you have to pay for using Usenet?
Well since someone has to host the data, someone needs to pay for it :P
It's funny you put it that way, because torrents are based fundamentally on the idea of freely hosting the data so nobody has to pay to access it.
Torrents are based on the idea that everyone using them pays for it with their bandwidth and hardware cost. Except for those leechers who don't share.
I'm paying more for my seedbox than for my usenet subscription. If I used my own hardware I'd pay with stress on my hardware, e.g. the disks aging and failing earlier because of seeding. The power consumption is also not negligeble, altough the server is also used for other purposes.
With private trackers this idea of an equal exchange is more obvious because of ratio requirements.
Edit: I'd say it's similar to open source in that no single individual has to pay for it, but someone does have to, for it to exist. Most often with their (valuable) time and knowledge. If no one helps out and does their part (through money or time+knowledge), a project won't survive for long. Same is true for torrents.
You pay for traffic. There are some free versions out there, but they limit you to 10-25 GB or something. Might be an option for the 1% you can't find on public trackers.
Yes just like paying for vpn and/or seedbox to safely torrent.
You can get free accounts from sites like Eternal September, but you only get access to text groups, which are mostly full of spam anymore. If you don't download much, it's best to just get a block account.