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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've been cashless for about a decade now. I have no problem with donating money, giving or recieving monay as a gift. I never give the homeless money, but I often buy them food. Why couldn't you buy or sell something to people? You can easily transfer someone a small sum of money using their phone number. Same with garage sales. When was the last time You saw a Piggy Bank?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Many unhoused people do not have a phone.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's been at least a decade since I've seen a homeless person without a phone. Free government phones are easy to get. They all have them.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6516785/

However, little is known about homeless adults’ technology access and use. Utilizing data from a study of 421 homeless adults moving into PSH, this paper presents descriptive technology findings, and compares results to age-matched general population data. The vast majority (94%) currently owned a cell phone, although there was considerable past 3-month turnover in phones (56%) and phone numbers (55%). More than half currently owned a smartphone, and 86% of those used Android operating systems. Most (85%) used a cell phone daily, 76% used text messaging, and 51% accessed the Internet on their cell phone. One-third reported no past 3-month Internet use

Based on that study, many have a cell phone, but not all of them have smart phones. There's also a lot of turnover.

I've never had a homeless person ask me to venmo them some money.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

in other countries outside of the USA, you can use phone credit as money. Since you can transfer phone credit to people, and credit is stored as a money amount... it's easy.

No smart tech needed. Just a free sms.

[–] englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Which country is giving away free phones? I have never heard that before.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Wait a few weeks and Google will be giving away free phones, just so they can track everybody. Wait a couple more weeks, and having a tracked phone will be mandatory.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I apologize for not clarifying that I'm in the US

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They also don't have homes, what's your point?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This was a direct response to someone saying "You can easily transfer someone a small sum of money using their phone number."

You can't easily transfer someone money using their phone if they don't have one. (Though I learned after that many do have phones, many aren't smart phones and they do have high turnover of phone and phone number. So I think cash is still superior overall)

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why would I need to transfer money to the homeless?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did you not read the previous comments? The context includes "I never give the homeless money, but I often buy them food." and also the idea of being a cashless society.

Some people give the homeless money because the homeless person doesn't have any, and if you give them a couple dollars they can get something to eat. I don't have to explain charity, I hope.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Again. Why would I give a homeless person money for food, if I can just give them food?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps you have money on you, but no food. You may be in a place where food cannot be readily purchased (eg: a subway train).

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I won't have money on me, I don't carry cash, as previously stated. In a case like that I would give the homeless person nothing. I have no obligation to help people.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah! Fuck them! If they don't have homes or cards they don't deserve food, get good scrubs!

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

FFS. Please read the previous comment. I don't give money to the poor. I give money to charitable organisations. They have bank accounts. Also every single time in my life when I was asked by a homeless person for food, I bought them food. Shops have card readers. I don't need cash to help people.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh yes charitable organizations which in the US definitely aren't usually just a corporate tax write-off with so much money wasted on overhead that could have directly went to helping people.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)