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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

People forget Reagan. And the Bush Klan. Ole Prescott Bush was connected to the Wall street putch. He missed his chance at US dictatorship. But he groomed his son and grandson well. To cause as much damage as possible. "Mission Accomplished" Am I right?

[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Prescott and his fascist cronies were stopped by an actual patriot, retired general Smedley Butler. A man who so despaired of the wars he helped wage that he became an anti-war later in life.

I’m sure you know this since you are aware of the plot, but I’ll never miss an opportunity to bring up this American hero.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Though they unfortunately were not stopped. Just largely delayed unfortunately. FDR playing fast and loose cut a lot of backroom deals which led to the temporary New Deal programs. Which were a great thing in the short term. But as a concession hr let a lot of the fascists go and kept a lot of the information from actually becoming public. And as a result. They've largely dismantled the new deal policies. And spent the last century simmering and growing stronger and stronger till we get where we are today. Butler was absolutely a hero though.

[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

Same shit every time. Bunch of Nazi scientists? Why prosecute when we can use them!

I just don’t know anymore. Squash fascists and someone always finds a way to let way too many off the hook. Let them come into the open and we get… the nightmare timeline we’re in now (thanks Ms Schlafly).

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

don't almost every us president in recent memory?

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In terms of Republicans of last century? Sure. In terms of democrats? No not really. Obama, Biden, and Clinton are not fascists. They are just appeasers. Which is definitely not a good thing but very different.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

if you sit on the table with nazis, and even work hard to appease them, what are you really?

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i strongly disagree. tehy took the reigns of a fascist government and did nothing to dismantle that power. fuck every one of them.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, as much as I'm not happy with Biden, much of the administrative work his office has been doing this term has been undoing the crap Trump pulled.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

kids in cages, building the wall, and producing more fossil fuels.

shit some of the shit trump did was actually good, like pushing back against the war machine and letting Bidens prisoners out of jail.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm confused by how you phrased this. Are you saying Biden put kids in cages, built a wall and produced more Fossil fuels, or trump did? Or are you saying those things were good, and that trump also did other good things like pushing against the war machine and releasing prisoners (which were Biden's somehow?)

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

biden did all of that, the same as trump.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok so you are saying Biden did those first three things as well as Trump, but Trump did some stuff that was good.

Are you saying Biden didn't do a single thing you said was good?

Also you're ignoring the whole "raped a 13 year old girl" and "tried to stage a coup against a fair election done by American civilians" and "34 counts of felonies" that Trump has also done, besides making fun of disabled people, the military, actively trying to get people to attack minorities and LGBT people ...

Sorry but it's not really equivalent.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

i don't believe he tried to stage a coup. i'm an anarchist, and a prison abolitionist, so i don't care what the carceral state has to say about his conduct. honestly there are enough bad things about trump without all the trumped up bullshit the media throws around: he's a landlord, he's a capitalist employer, he "donates to" (pays off) politicians, he spreads racist rhetoric, he advocates for the carceral state (without seeming to understand the irony)... i mean lots of bad shit. i'm not voting for him. i don't think anyone should.

i also am not about to vote for a politician who has lauded apartheid israel, never run into a war he didn't want to fund, and is probably as corrupt as any other politician who spent 50 years in dc.

does this make them equal? well, no, but i also don't know how to go about quantifying which one is a bigger shitbag. i don't think it's even a good use of time.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

biden's crime bill is the law that unjustly jailed those people

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok but you didn't clarify your previous statement

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

which statement?