I'm in an internal debate about the eureka flag, nd southern cross in general, its an inherently christian symbol, the more i think about it the leas i like it. Not many other people i know care about this at all. Dont even get me started on the cross being associated with first aid. I'm firmly Red Crystal gang.

[–] TrudeauCastroson@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Now that you mention it, I see your point. The Southern cross is probably worse for being a symbol of the explorers who discovered land to be colonized than for the cross itself IMO.

Meanwhile the Nordic countries have sideways crosses because one of them started it since they had a king see a cross or something in a battle, and then they copied each other's homework. The king didn't even meet Jesus, he just hallucinated a cross. If you met the guy then at least that's a story. That's like putting Elvis on your flag because you saw him in a potato chip.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

The eureka flag was originally flown by striking miners in the Eureka Rebellion 1854, from memory its the first flag to feature the southern cross, it wasnt adopted by the colonies until victoria adopted its current flag later on

Colonists largely being christian is a big part of my issue, being in a mostly christian state I was a bit blind to the significance of the cross until recently, but look at this shit

A depiction of The Southern Cross in Mark Twain's 1897 travelogue, "Following the Equator"

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you talking about Constantine or some other king that had a cross-battle dream?

[–] TrudeauCastroson@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

It was Danish King Valdemar II, who had the flag fall from the sky to him as a sign. Some historians say it was a cross-battle dream, like Constantine, or like the 1217 Seige of Alcacer do Sal.

I guess hallucinating crosses during or after battles was just a common thing for a while. Everyone who lost while hallucinating a cross probably died so there's probably some confirmation bias there too. It's like how praying for your team to win a superbowl only works if you end up winning, if you lose then I guess the other team prayed harder.

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think that this'd be the most likely to get agreed on. Change nothing except dropping the union jack for the aboriginal flag. People prefer as little change as possible.

As for what it should be, idk. I think stars should be involved definitely.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Swap the southern cross for a single red star bugs-stalin