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[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t call it a homophobic trope, there’s a lot of truth to it. Closeted gay men in these hardcore homophobic communities tend to have massive self loathing issues, and take it out on everyone else.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Shit being uncomfortable has no relation to whether it's true or not.

[–] Grail@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Idk, a 1996 study of 60 men doesn’t sound definitive. That’s their best evidence?

Edit: the study is, as I expected, not great. The homophobic men were far more aroused by the lesbian and straight content. The article is also misleading in saying all of the homophobic men were aroused by gay porn. It was actually around half. So we’re talking roughly 18 men. However, erections can happen for a number of reasons. Fear, for example, can cause erections. These homophobic men had just taken a survey about homophobia. Knowing what the study was about, wouldn’t they be afraid of being labeled as gay? I don’t buy the results.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Fear, for example, can cause erections.

I have never had a fear boner in my life.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

While we think of erections as a response to sexual arousal, it’s important to know that many of the erections a person has over their lifetime will pop up as a result of something else entirely. Changes in blood flow, hormonal fluctuations, high levels of stress, anxiety, or nervousness, and even changes in ambient temperature can cause erections—other times, there’s no discernible cause whatsoever. Called “spontaneous” or “unprovoked” erections, they’re an ordinary (albeit sometimes conspicuous) physiological response.

A lot of these unprovoked erections—between three and five per night, on average—happen while their owners are sound asleep. They typically happen during the rapid eye movement (REM) sleep stage, a phase associated with vivid dreaming. Interestingly, however, these erections are not typically related to sexual arousal or dreams of a sexual nature, although they can co-occur.

https://www.treatmyocd.com/what-is-ocd/common-fears/worried-about-getting-unwanted-erections-youre-not-alone

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I’ve never pissed my pants in fear. I’ve never had a lot of reactions other people do. Doesn’t invalidate it

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 3 months ago

Homophobia causes (something similar to) gayness. But it’s not gayness as a sexuality, it’s gayness as a fetish. One that degrades and hurts the men they fetishise.

Well that's actually believable... It still Seems like being gay with a couple extra steps but I understand there is some nuance here.