ADHD memes

I think it's definitely had the positive effects that you mention. People are far less cruel, more understanding, and also WAY more willing to go seek help with these types of problems than they used to be.

The negative effect is that anytime something becomes romanticized, it's human nature for people to adopt it as an identity, which introduces a lot of noise to the conversation, and we lose some of our objectivity toward it, as now there's an emotional attachment to the label itself. For example:

• Back in the day (early 2010s?) of tumblr, when people first started collecting mental health labels like personal trading cards.
• Or now, with the plethora of pseudoscientific misinformation about mental health on tiktok: random people are just making up terms or symptoms and pitching them in a nearly universally relatable way like horoscopes.
• If you offer people a label that makes them feel part of a group, supported, and potentially explain why a bunch of things in their life are hard, it's in our nature to gravitate toward that.

All that being said, I still think it's a net-positive effect. This is just what happens anytime something clinical enters the mainstream conversation.

I hate it. Sure. Being called a retard isn't great, but having people claim ASDs are just a different way of thinking is downplaying problems. Oh how quirky we are!

If I wasn't retarded, I would have been able to study properly instead of relying on hyperfocus and high ascociative thinking. I would have graduated. If I wasn't retarded, I would have been able to do things consistently and perseveer. Instead, I lose and gain weight over and over. I'm going to develop diabetes at this rate. Going to a 24/7 open gym is the only chance I got at staving off the problems caused by depression and my dopamine hunger induced eating disorder. If I wasn't retarded, people would have appreciated me more. Instead, I am too much. Say too much. Exist too much. Even when I predict something, or suggest something that people think was good, they believe someone else in the group thought of it.

Furthermore, downplaying the issues could have people mistake just how capable people with autism/ADHD are. People shouldn't think that starting a family with someone autistic is just "going to be a little different." People seriously ought to reconsider marrying someone lacking theory of mind skills. And autists should seriously reconsider whether or not they are suitable parents. Baby cries? Can't have a meltdown. Baby needs consistent care? Better not have exec. dys. inhibiting your jobsecurity and energy management. Need to be able to get on the level of the child, make the child feel heard and understood? Sucks for the kid if the parent lacks that ability too. Both my parents are autistic/AD(H)D, and were downright neglectful and one abusive. They have no real friends. They struggle with emotional regulation and communication. I've been working my ass off to become better than them.

I don't care what people call having multiple mental disabilities. What's important is helping children on the spectrum. Early detection could have spared me further brain damage and subsequent stacking of developmental problems.

This is just a misunderstanding of statistics. Something being true for the average doesn't mean it's true for separate points.

But in average that's a bit like calling homosexualism a disability.

I like the border between disability and just neurodivergence to be drawn where it needs to be cured with medicine or you turn into a vegetable or can't survive. Like with schizophrenia, or maybe BPD. With autism and ADHD most of the problems are from trying to follow procedures for people who are different and imitate them, and most of the solutions are about teaching people with these conditions to drop those imitations and know themselves. I mean, medicine helps, but the problems it solves are too mostly about network effect.

I understand what you mean! What I (and probably most of us) want is the balance between "treat me like a normal person" (as in, with the same dignity and less condescension) and "don't set expectations too high". I believe portraying persons on the spectre as savant geniuses as in "Rain Man" or ADHD as a "superpower" skews the balance to one side and we just need some disclaimers to even it out.

As a low support / "high functioning" (which feels like a toxic phrase for "good at masking and compensating") autist, it's easy for me say "I'm just different" and blame my disadvantages on a society that fails to accomodate for that divergence. I often stay away from spaces where I know I won't be comfortable, I miss out on events I fear may overwhelm me, I retreat when I don't feel like I can handle navigating the minefield of social interaction. I'm excluding myself from things, because I know (or fear) those things won't cater to my differences, but I'm not universally unable to participate, so it feels less like a disability to me (more on that later).

That most certainly doesn't hold for people whose "functioning" is more severely impaired. If you respond to unexpected changes with anxiety attacks because you can't adjust quickly, that certainly presents a disability in the literal sense and a challenge in dealing with everyday occurrences.

I feel like the shift away from calling it a disability is partially due to the stigma of treating people with disabilities as lesser, partially because it's not always a visible physical disability and I've seen people argue that it's not a real disability. Both of those are bad, but instead of engaging them, It's sometimes easier to sidestep. Instead of arguing whether I'm disabled or not, I'll call it a neurodivergence, because my brain being different is something that's beyond argument.

There is also the opposite to disdain or dismissal: Pity or praise. Instead of treating me as defective or overdramatic, some people have responded with some form of "oh you poor thing, that must be hard" or "you're so strong, making your way through life despite those challenges".
The first one may be half-right, but it just feels like something you'd say when you don't know what's appropriate and are trying to play it safe with the empathy angle.

The second feels hollow, because I don't feel stronger. I struggle far more than I could even express, because expressing thoughts in itself is a struggle. I spent forever writing this comment. To consider myself stronger than others would require me to somehow quantify my difficulties and weigh them up against theirs. I don't think that's productive. I think it will lead to some form of "suffering olympics", which is a mindset I'd like to avoid.
And really, what else would I do? Sit in a corner and cry about the injustice of the universe? Might as well curse the sun for being hot, it doesn't change anything. Better to look for shade instead of dwelling on the problem.

I don't want people to treat me like I'm subhuman, nor like I'm superhuman. I don't want people to invalidate my difficulties, nor make a point of dwelling on them. I want people to acknowledge that this is how I work, to understand if I'm doing something "wrong" or have difficulties, possibly help me if it's reasonable.
I don't need a lot of accommodation, just some patience, understanding when I express myself poorly or do things a certain way that suits me more and maybe someone to handle difficult communication on my behalf. So I wouldn't describe myself as disabled, whether or not that would be accurate, because of the social baggage that word carries. I'd rather leave the relevant help resources for those that need it more.

That's not to discount anyone else's self-description. If you feel like "disability" fits your condition, I'm not going to invalidate that. You know your experience better than anyone else. In fact, I can see an argument that my self-exclusion as response to my difficulties presents some degree of disability to participate.

I'm still fighting my own preconceptions on that, and it probably is part of the reason I don't feel like disabled is an accurate description for msyelf. I've grown up with a certain set of convictions and prejudice that I've deeply internalised. I've mostly managed to expunge them when it comes to others, occasionally still catching myself in some judgmental train of thought and then consciously derailing it, but I have difficulties accurately and productively reflecting on my own self-perception. In a way, it's both the least outwardly toxic, yet most self-destructive form of hypocrisy, and I don't know how to deal with it.

As for the romanticisation, I feel like that might be the result of efforts to fight the stigma having overshot their goal due to survivorship bias. Yes, people with ASD may have unique talents too. Yes, we're not all entirely disadvantaged. Yes, ASD doesn't automatically make us strictly less capable.

But most of us aren't some insane genius. You just wouldn't make a big deal out of the average, so the media report on the extraordinary instead. And if someone's only contact with the topic is through media that show the savants, it's easy to forget that what they see isn't representative.

No, no, I know what hyperfocus is, it's the reason I no longer touch creative writing with a ten foot pole after getting bombarded with "but you wrote this one in an hour and it is awesome! just write another one!" :D

I meant that I am wondering if normal people just get the same productivity but without it being flipped on or off randomly, provided they don't get distracted by something. You know, kinda like learning that it's not just a tv thing that people can say "okay, let's do this" and actually sit down and do "this" and not have to beat their brain into submission first.

I can’t control it so it’s not a superpower, it’s random enforced focus

I call it catching the wave. You cant predict the wave and you have no idea if it will ever even happen. Sometimes just have to sit and wait for the motivation to complete tasks to hit, then ride it as long as I can until it tapers off again.