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Star Wars Memes

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Hello there. Somehow, Star Wars memes have returned. It's not a trap, this is where the fun begins.

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Other universes to visit:

!lotrmemes@midwest.social

!tenforward@lemmy.world

Separatist systems:

!prequelmemes@lemmy.world

Oh hey some real SW content for a change (perhaps):

!star_wars@lemmy.world

!starwars@lemmy.ml

!starwarstelevision@lemmy.world

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Please do not post the "good friend" or similar copypasta

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Our galactic citizens have requested more specific rules, so here are a few.

The general idea is, if you're looking here for rules, you're probably someone who doesn't need to have them spelled out. You're fine. But anyway:

  1. This is a community for Star Wars memes. This means typically screenshots of Star Wars media with some text or context that's meant to be funny and/or thoughtful. All SW media is welcome: movies, games, comic books, fanart... Other kinds of content, like video links or meta memes (about this community, or Lemmy), are fine as well, just keep it on topic.

  2. We are all friends here, and love (sometimes love to hate) Star Wars. Be nice to each other.

  3. As fans of fictional media, we can be passionate. If you very strongly disagree with something or someone, take a deep breath before reacting. Anger leads to the dark side!

  4. Everything in Star Wars has happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far away, and it's a rich universe of millions of words and millions of years of history. So current Earthly matters really shouldn't concern us here. In other words, leave politics, philosophies and convictions behind the door. This applies even if it's about something related to Star Wars.

  5. Original content is preferred. Reposts are fine, just please limit to a maximum of 3 per day, per citizen. It is recommended, but not required, to mark original memes as (OC) and reposts as (repost).

  6. Local mods are the Jedi council. They may take actions that are necessary to maintain peace and stability of the Republic, even beyond the rules outlined here. Follow their guidance.

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[–] peyotecosmico@programming.dev 59 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] ArkhamNightshift@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Andor is the kind of show where I would literally recommend it to someone who hates Star Wars. It's just such an incredibly raw, powerful, and vital piece of media. One of the finest works of anti-fascist art I've seen in a long time.

Anyone who hasn't watched that show is robbing themselves. Moments like "one way out" and Luthen's "sacrifice" monologue are going to live with me for a long time. Season 2 can't come soon enough.

Also B2EMO is the best droid in all of Star Wars (Fun fact; his voice is the puppeteer's, but it wasn't supposed to be. They were planning to overdub, but then the guy did such an amazing job on the set that they just gave him the role).

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Andor worked despite being Star Wars, not because of it. It very well could be even better for people who don't like SW. Knowing how it fits into the larger universe is nice, but it isn't required. It's just a good anti-fascist freedom fighter story that happens to use Star Wars language and aesthetics.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm not sure I fully agree there. I think it's absolutely accurate to say that Andor didn't need to be Star Wars. Like, you absolutely could file all the serial numbers off and get a show that works in more or less exactly the same way.

With that said, I think Andor absolutely benefits from being Star Wars, in a couple of a ways.

The first is that they can skip all the broad strokes world building. We don't need the concept of the galactic empire explained to us, or the general structure of how the senate works, and so on. The big pieces are all in place, so they can get straight to the small scale world building instead. This would be a solvable problem if you were creating something new, but its definitely nice that they get to skip straight to the important bits this way.

The second, bigger benefit (IMO) is the juxtaposition created by the tonal shift. Something that's very notable about Star Wars is that the tone and the content are often rather at odds with each other. George Lucas is on record as saying that in his mind the Rebellion were the Viet-Cong (with the obvious implication that the Empire is the USA). That's some fucking heavy shit. Luke's adoptive parents get brutally murdered by agents of the state, for absolutely no crime at all, and this inspires him to take up with a group of, well, terrorists. I mean, this is literally the same as a young Palestinian joining up with Hamas. Star Wars is about some really, really heavy shit, but it also starts with the line "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." This is a fairy-tale about magic space wizards, but also a story about insurgents blowing up a massive military installation, and eventually performing a coup and assassinating the head of state.

Over the years, the story around Star Wars has leaned increasingly into the "magic space wizards" side of things. It's seen as a family friendly property, something for kids to enjoy at Disneyland. The creators of Andor set out to intentionally shock the audience by creating something that leans hard away from that family friendly image. Andor is a fucking dark story, about desperate people adopting brutal methods in the face of brutal oppression.

And they're not just doing that for shock value. The point of this is to tell a story about the ways in which we idealise "rebels" in one breath and condemn "terrorists" in another. To many people, Luke is a hero, but that young man who joins up with Hamas is a monster. Reality is complicated and messy. Hamas are a real political group, with a real ideology, and despite the monstrous oppression they face, some of that ideology really sucks. Their targets aren't "Storm Troopers", they're often civilians, or conscripts. On the other hand, many of those conscripts behave in ways far more monstrous than anything the empire is ever depicted as doing.

Andor is a story about fascism, about the absolute necessity of resisting it, and about the monstrous personal cost that resistance can demand of us. By setting that story against the backdrop of a "family friendly" property I think it really does a lot to drive home the disconnect between our ideals of resistance and the cold, hard reality.

[–] ReeferPirate@lemy.lol 6 points 4 months ago

It's fucking jarring when the ISB name drop Palpatine. You completely forget it's star wars at some points

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

anti-fascist freedom fighter story

I mean that's arguably what Star Wars is.

The Prequels and Sequels each flubbed it in their own way by being either too meandering or too self-obsessed, but Andor is basically a forceless movie trilogy broken into episodes.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Andor is really slow art. It takes a while to build, but once you’re in, you’re hooked. Can’t wait for season 2, either. People were really concerned when Disney took over SW, and the modern movies are pretty mid (except Rogue One, which is amazing), however the series that have come out of their takeover have been mostly fantastic or at the very least just enjoyable. Andor and Mandalorian being the stars. Boba Fett was pretty disappointing though.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I don't know that you even have to know anything about Star Wars to enjoy Andor. It's not like Star Wars lore was super important. The Force and Jedi are not even parts of the plot.

[–] PeteBauxigeg@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Andor was worth the 250m they spent on it

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Hell yeah it is

[–] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Andor was so well done that it stressed me out. The cheesy schlock of Bobafet was just what I needed.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, fair (and I say that as someone who is a huge, huge, HUGE fan of Andor). Like, if you're looking for some cheesy fun science fantasy schlock about space wizards, do not watch that show.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly that's what made Andor so damn good. Not a whiff of The Force shenanigans. Just an ordinary guy trying to live his life and keep his head down, and that just isn't enough because of the level of corruption in The Empire.

One way out, indeed.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It pains me no end that there's all this great fiction out there in a vast universe just waiting to happen, and they keep coming back to the same boring family of fucking space wizards.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Idk, I feel like we just haven't visited tatooine enough.

But for real, there are thousands of inhabitable planets in star wars and we always end up on one of like 6. They make the galaxy feel so small.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not a movie so it's fine. That and the Ewoks TV show ofc

What a banger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WFjM3QWKlE