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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And?

Your wikipedia links don't make an assertion. The one on UPF does remind you, though, that

Some authors have criticised the concept of "ultra-processed foods" as poorly defined

The crux of this learning moment for you shouldn't be about definitions, but the relative "healthiness" of vegan food products.

It's clear you began with a preference to paint with a broad brush these meat substitute products as "junk food," and you have the opportunity to recognize they aren't as obviously unhealthy as you first thought.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Every 10 percentage points increase in plant-sourced non-UPF consumption was associated with a 7% lower risk of CVD (95% CI 0.91–0.95) and a 13% lower risk of CVD mortality (0.80–0.94). Conversely, plant-sourced UPF consumption was associated with a 5% increased risk (1.03–1.07) and a 12% higher mortality (1.05–1.20). The contribution of all UPF was linked to higher CVD risk and mortality, and no evidence for an association between contribution of all plant-sourced foods and CVD incidence and mortality was observed

Modern plant-sourced diets may incorporate a range of ultra-processed foods (UPF), such as sugar-sweetened beverages, snacks, confectionery, but also the ‘plant-sourced’ sausages, nuggets, and burgers that are produced with ingredients originating from plants and marketed as meat and dairy substitutes.

Thanks for your teaching moment, but take a second to get up to speed and we can talk after that.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh honey, your stealth edit shows that you don't understand. I'll explain it to you: the study you keep linking doesn't differentiate between those foods in that "range of ultra-processed foods (UPF)," so that means data coming from "sugar-sweetened beverages, snacks, confectionery" is getting all mixed in with the data of the "‘plant-sourced’ sausages, nuggets, and burgers," which unfortunately renders the conclusions of the study rather meaningless when we're talking about the CVD outcomes of just one of the data sets.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What is a stealth edit?

I fixed some formatting issues. Does that make the study I linked invalid?

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just told you why the study you linked is invalid for this conversation. Do you want me to quote the comment you just replied to so you can reread it?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not going to continue providing you with valid studies so you can keep trying to disprove them to promote your agenda.

Isn’t that sealioning?

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago

Did I ask you to continue providing studies? Agenda? Good luck, friend.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Low-effort repost of your specious use of a study with nebulous conclusions for this conversation; I'll quote the user above:

that category contains "soft drinks, sweet or savoury packaged snacks, confectionery; packaged breads and buns; reconstituted meat products and pre-prepared frozen or shelf-stable dishes." This gives you no information on Impossible burgers' impact on cardiovascular disease, it only gives you a trend among people who eat all of the above. I would suspect the reality is Impossible meat contributes to CVD slightly more than straight-up vegetables and significantly less than red meat.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So?

Link a study showing that, it should be easy.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

Something proving your high-effort repost of another user’s comment.