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[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What do I call the guys marching with swastikas and calling for race war then? Will Nazis get offended if I call non-nazis "nazis"?

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Racists, neo-nazis, white nationalists, it depends what they are. Nazi ideology was not just racism, it was inherently tied to a form of economic corporatism.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Do... Do our American Nazis, not want capital corporatism? Because this description of Nazi Germany's economy sounds a lot like trump and the general Republican party.

The changes included privatization of state owned industries, import tariffs, and an attempt to achieve autarky (national economic self-sufficiency). Weekly earnings increased by 19% in real terms from 1933 to 1939, but this was largely due to employees working longer hours, while the hourly wage rates remained close to the lowest levels reached during the Great Depression. In addition, reduced foreign trade meant rationing of consumer goods like poultry, fruit, and clothing for many Germans.

And this sure sounds like how the right acts about our military industrial complex...

The Nazis believed in war as the primary engine of human progress, and argued that the purpose of a country's economy should be to enable that country to fight and win wars of expansion.

And if you want a source, it's like literally the first bit in the article on the economy of Nazi Germany on Wikipedia. With all the sources you like.

And it just keeps going. This next bit sounds like riling up the populace to throw them under the bus and vote against their own self interest by demogoging about The Other. Reminds me of some fucks on the right here in the US. And by some, I mean... Well, I can't name any that aren't like this?

The Nazi government developed a partnership with leading German business interests, who supported the goals of the regime and its war effort in exchange for advantageous contracts, subsidies, and the suppression of the trade union movement. Cartels and monopolies were encouraged at the expense of small businesses, even though the Nazis had received considerable electoral support from small business owners.

If you don't see the parallels, you are either blind or deceitful.

Walks like a goose, swims like a goose, steps like a goose, oop, it's an "Economically Anxious Republican"

Spades are spades, ducks are ducks, Nazis are Nazis.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay I'll keep calling them Nazis because they are Nazis. They wave nazi flags, they goosestep like Nazis, they believe in fascism like nazis. Not sure why you're defending the honor of Nazis (or maybe you're defending non-nazi white supremacists), but you pedantry is misplaced.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They wave nazi flags, they goosestep like Nazis, they believe in fascism like nazis.

Of course there are still people who believe in Nazi ideology, but if they believe this: "American Nazies want more slaves. Minorities need to have more babies… as long as they stay poor and uneducated." then they very likely aren't that

Not sure why you’re defending the honor of Nazis (or maybe you’re defending non-nazi white supremacists

Saying a term is inaccurate isn't defending them, you know that, and to suggest it is disingenuous.

Eg. I don't like pedophiles or serial killers, but calling a one the other is simply inaccurate.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't like pedophiles or serial killers, but calling a one the other is simply inaccurate.

This is more like calling a pedophile an ephebophile (a word pedophiles made up to try and get people to stop calling them pedophiles). Birds of a feather flock together.

You are pointlessly splitting hairs simply to be the smartest guy in the room.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You are pointlessly splitting hairs simply to be the smartest guy in the room.

No it's not, it's saying that Nazi doesn't just mean "bad". There are a lot of ideologies I disagree with, that aren't Nazis

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

No it's not, it's saying that Nazi doesn't just mean "bad".

And you pointing that out is pointless because NatakuNox wasn't saying that. They were pointing out that Nazism has evolved and changed over the last century or so and there are now multiple flavors of Nazi in the world. Some branches of Nazism look different than others. Some branches don't get along with the others. They still call themselves Nazis.

There are a lot of ideologies I disagree with, that aren't Nazis

But there's some that are, right?