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Klobuchar is definitely a good idea. Although I'm not convinced that replacing Biden this late in the game is going to save the presidency either. I don't know what should be done.
The only reason to vote for Biden at this point is anti-Trump and Blue No Matter Who. Those still apply to anyone else that the DNC puts forward, as a base score, with any actual merits, charisma, or vigor adding to that. This should have been an easy decision six months ago and doing-nothing-and-hoping-for-the-best doesn’t seem to be making the prospects any better.
anti-Trump sounds like a pretty damn good reason for me. Unless you think there's a good reason to let a dictator win.
If that were all it took to win, we wouldn't have been worried before the debate and twice as worried after. Not-Trump isn't the autowin the establishment wishes it was.
Whether or not it's all it takes to win doesn't mean it isn't a good reason.
You clearly didn’t read what I wrote, but you sure took the time to start talking some more.
The only reason to blindly insist on Biden as the only possible nominee, a bad-mouth someone who discusses an alternative approach, is if you want Trump to win.
I read every word. I still maintain that "not dictator" is always a better vote than "dictator," even if that is your only reason.
I think what the other commenter meant was that for many people, like yourself, a D near the name is enough to vote for that person but the bar can be higher for other people. If the dems had put (might be time yet?) a not-absurdly-bad candidate, as they have now, they would've won easily. But seeing how it's going you guys are gonna enjoy four years (hopefully only four) of Trump as president, and the rest of the world will have to put up with all his crap as well.
I said that the DNC should run someone who is more charismatic and younger so that they could more easily beat Trump. Where are you getting the dictator garbage?
Seriously?
https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72
So, again, anti-Trump is a good enough reason to vote who whomever gets the nomination as far as I can tell. They could nominate clam and they'd get my vote.
That’s literally exactly what I said.
Geez, you make some good posts sometimes but interacting with you is a really horrible experience every time. So needlessly hostile.
I don't think I was the hostile party here:
Then how does "needlessly argumentative" strike you? You misinterpreted the other poster's point entirely, and then entered a cycle of doubling down without making any further effort to understand.
Maybe I misinterpreted their point, but I'm not sure why I should have been expected to make much more of an effort after that first reply. And then I get blamed for being hostile all the time by that same person?
My guess is that they're conflating "stubbornly contradictory" with "hostile," which isn't accurate. Being labeled as or treated as hostile when you're not is frustrating, and it leads to poor communication. That goes both ways, though, and I can see where you'd both be able to infer hostility that may or may not be intended by the other party.
Also, I'd suggest that if you no longer feel that you should "make an effort" then the best course of action is exactly that - cease engaging.
I don't disagree, but I should point out that the conversation between the two of us also ended last night, so I think we have both ceased to engage.
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Lemmy really, really needs emoji responses that don't require and entirely new comment.
You could just upvote it.
The problem is that upvotes serve two conflicting proposes. Upvoting raises visibility, so one use is to say, "this is a post people should see." In that case, you may not necessarily agree with the content of the post, but rather believe it's worthy of debate. A good example of this is c/unpopularopinion, where the community rules specifically state to upvote if you agree it's an unpopular opinion, not whether you agree with the opinion.
The other, conflicting, use is to signal approval or disapproval.
You can't do both at the same time. It's a flaw in design Reddit had, which they fixed but monetized. Lemmy did not learn from Reddit's mistake and instead repeated it.
Two conflicting uses for the same action is terrible UX design.