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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 78 points 3 months ago (63 children)

The discourse around Biden exiting the race is moot because the only one who decides if he continues is Biden. Biden is still running so nothing changes. Biden is who we need to vote for to keep our democracy.

Biden had a bad debate performance. It was a missed opportunity to pick up new voters. Biden demoralized his base. But we're still stuck with him, because there is no external mechanism to stop him from running.

The most effective tool we have to prevent the christo-fascist takeover this November is voting. The debate did not change that.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I don't understand this chain of logic why we need to keep Biden:

  1. Biden isn't the best candidate.

  2. Only Biden can drop (false)

  3. Biden will never make the adult decision to retire.

  4. We have to plow forward with Biden because he'll never change his mind on anything.

Like, the argument for why Biden has to stay, is just reasons he shouldn't stay...

And it's not just up to him. It's up to the DNC.

We are not stuck with Biden.

Biden and the DNC just know that's the only way people will vote for him, so they've been reporting it for like 5 years now.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Only Biden can drop

This is a true statement. Biden won the primary. The delegates are pledged to him. Biden is the one who has to decide if he drops out.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mostly true. The DNC is the organization that makes the rules and can change them at any time. That would be a pretty bad move though unless the party really felt united in needing to do a hostile expulsion. Realistically Biden needs to be on board for a change to work, so being able to play Calvinball with primary voting rules isn't really an out.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

Yes, as I understand it they would have to change the rules to expel him. People seem to be assuming that there is already a mechanism to expel him without doing that.

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