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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Tried meth once. Felt like Adderall. I could see why people abuse it, but I didn't feel the need.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

That's cause Adderall is meth.

Or meth adjacent. I don't know the chemistry.

[–] Kampfkrapfen_Backup@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Adderall is amphetamine, the base compound.

Meth is methamphetamine, amphetamine with a methyl group attached to it, so it's very closely related to Adderall. That small change makes it a bit more potent, longer lasting and euphoric though.

But meth can also get prescribed for ADHD and narcolepsia (under the brand name 'Desoxyn') in very rare cases where even Adderall doesn't seem to do the trick. So basically, both substances can be used therapeutically and they both can fuck up your life if you start abusing them, with meth admittedly being more potent and dangerous than regular amphetamine.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

While there is some credence to this example, we all know chemistry does not work like this. For example, H2O, very good, essential for all life. H2O2, not so much.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yep. I had an Adderall Rx for years prior, felt almost identical. But I also swallowed it, didn't smoke or inject it.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

If we're just assuming stuff based on vibes then caffeine is meth too.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No it's fucking not.

And this kind of thinking is why the local cops raided a clinic my town and why doctors in my town are now scared to prescribe it.

This is what happens when people stigmatize and demonize legal meds that actually help folks who genuinely need it.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Cops raided a pharmacy because they needed a fix. Foia the body cam footage if they got them.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

nah, you're the wrong here buddy

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I take it myself and have done so for 10+ years, and know the chemistry of it. It's in the same tree, but it's absolutely not meth.

If it were meth, it'd be called meth.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Adderall is not meth, but it's still a form of speed/amphetamine and is still addictive to some neurotypical people. Maybe not as addictive or dangerous, but very much in the same category.

The reason ADHD people don't get addicted is because of their altered neurology and the doses it's prescribed at.

In fact actual meth is sometimes prescribed to ADHD patients in small doses. It's called Desoxyn.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Adderall is not meth, but it's still a form of speed/amphetamine

Yes. Absolutely. But it is not meth, as people keep trying to claim.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because ADHD stimulants are forms of methamphetamines.

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

The umbrella term is amphetamines. And not all ADHD stimulants are amphetamines, as there's also methylphenidate (ritalin) which is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor kinda like cocaine, except for majority of people a lot less enjoyable.