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[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I wouldn't say that's true. China doesn't try to enact regime change, they work with the establishment. That's why you don't see rebels flying the Chinese flag, but it doesn't mean China lacks influence. They just lack influence with rebel groups.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Nah, I don't really see people wave Chinese flags. And it has little to do with them being anti-communist because I see them occasionally wave DPRK flags as well.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Chinese foreign policy has been shit since they helped the DPRK during the Korean War(which was basically the last good thing they did). Meanwhile the DPRK has always been on the right side of history when it comes to conflicts in MENA and Africa

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

PRC and DPRK have completely different circumstances.

China spent decades avoiding antagonising the West and quietly developing its economy (Deng's "Lay low and develop the productive forces") to the point where Western economies were so dependent on China that they can't cut it down to size anymore. DPRK had no such potential as they were already severely sanctioned.

So while DPRK has been able to always be outspokenly on the right side of history, no other socialist state can match the PRC's ability to aid other states in their development, share potentially world-saving green energy solutions across the global South, stake a socialist presence on the moon and Mars which would otherwise be de facto American frontiers, and have its private sector take money from Western gamers and use it fund fusion power research.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I know WHY they do things the way they do/did. I don't have to like it though.

Overall I'm just sad we lost a socialist counterbalance to the world hegemony of capitalism ussr-cry

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