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Biden’s defiance against calls for him to leave the presidential campaign after last month’s debate have only worsened his chances in November, Cook Editor-in-Chief Amy Walter wrote.

“Biden was losing pre-debate. Now, he’s losing by a bit more,” she said, adding that the possibility Biden leaves the race at this point is “remote.”

Citing postdebate polling, Cook announced it will move Minnesota, New Hampshire and Nebraska’s 2nd Congressional District from “Likely Democratic” to “Lean Democratic.” The group also moved Nevada, Arizona and Georgia from “Tossup” to “Lean Republican.”

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is so dumb- let’s elect Hitler’s biggest fan cause the other guy is slightly not as good as I’d like.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

ITs not about what I like or dont like.

Biden isn't winning this race. He is and will continue to lose to Trump.

If you dont want Trump, you must replace Biden.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, that only goes a couple of ways:

  1. Biden stays in and loses.
  2. Biden drops out for Kamala, who loses, because nobody likes her.
  3. The DNC replaces both of them, and that candidate loses because the voters believe they are owed a choice.

The only way I see a "D" win is for Joe to die in office, Kamala picks up the reins and gets a massive sympathy vote.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, you and others where we're advocating that Biden was our only chance of beating Trump, and you in particular worked to silence voices trying to inform people that Biden was not winning this election.

So you shouldn't be surprised that I weight your opinion on what "will" happen politically to effectively 0.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

R2O got a timeout for admitting that his relentless doom posting was agenda based, not because they were wrong. :)

I actually agreed with a lot of the articles posted.

Biden is walking a very fine line and since the debate, he's on the wrong side of it. He's confident he will recover, I think that's delusional.

What I can guarantee will happen next is this:

  1. Trump will get a nice bump out of the convention starting 7/15 through 7/18.

There will be a bigger bump when he announces his VP pick.

  1. Without the conviction sentencing, the bump will be bigger than expected which will inspire more doom posting and calls for Biden to step aside.

  2. Biden will power through to the Democratic convention in August.

Any more mis-steps or health scares between now and August? That will make it hard to continue.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sure, put Bernie up, I’ll vote for him again.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

WE KNOW.

You cats don’t shut up about it, and have no other ideas for the greatest issues of our times… you should start a religion.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why do you insist on these insane projections?

Harris is fine. Fucking Newsom is fine. Fucking ANYONE who is able to get through a fucking sentence where they remember how the sentence started is fine. It would also be great if they didn't advocate for the dropping bombs on brown babies so we could win back MI/ MN/ and WI, but at this point, Biden has an effectively 0% chance of winning this thing.

If you advocate for him, or are trying to prevent a conversation that is critical of him, YOU are a Trump supporter.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’m not advocating for anyone other than not trump- but I am concerned that putting someone up that no one knows much about is gonna cause people to just not vote out of frustration/apathy/ignorance, and then what happens?

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

People know about Biden. He's losing. This would be a fine argument if he was just winning but looked shaky, but that's not the situation.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

That hand wringing attitude has left us with a incompetent candidate who is absolutely losing this race.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Harris will lose. She's less popular than Hillary Clinton - that's fucking impressive.

So I very much object to "Harris is fine".