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I just have no faith in her ability to beat Trump. She'll do worse than Biden ill bet.
I'm worried it will unite the sexists and racists behind trump
Pretty sure they're already there.
Are we really gonna chase them as a constituency?
Dems have been chasing them to the bottom of the barrel for some time now.
More like they'll actually be motivated to show up at the polls or not throw their vote away on Joe Exotic because they're threatened by women of color.
No, more like I'm worried we will motivate more to show up at the polls.
they were already united.
this is about mobilization and harris may be able to bring a wider, deeper pool of voters to the polls. I can tell you, where I am, there is absolutely no fire or enthusiasm for biden and we will miss warm bodies at polls pulling D levers because of it.
They’re already voting for trump.
Lol as if sexists and racists are voting democrat
There are a lot of people that don't realize they are sexist, or racist. They are surrounded by people that all also don't realize they are racist, or sexist but they will start finding all the flaws in them. They won't say "I don't trust a woman as president " but they will coincidently find other flaws in the person because they are involuntarily being more critical of them.
The point is, there are racist and sexists voting for Biden that wouldn't vote for Kamala. They just don't realize they are sexist.
I live in rural Arizona. I am essentially an expert on these types of people.
Okay yes that's a thing. It's also a thing that kids who would be too discouraged to vote at all would vote for Harris. We can't really know how that would shake out exactly, because both groups are hard to quantity.
Oh they exist.
Yeah that's a big concern too.
I will assume you’re a clever fellow and not a fuckwit.
I don't know. One thing that she's really good at is going on the attack. Go back and watch her in Senate hearings. If there's anything we need post-Biden, it's someone who will take the fight to Trump instead of bickering with him about golf and letting him control the narrative. Assuming that she hasn't let those skills atrophy in the interim, of course.
I don’t know why this is so hard, I care very little about her as a person. Biden is mostly at the whim of his party already and Kamala would be too. So the platforms remain nearly the same, but somewhat better on critical things like Gaza.
I don’t see how this is a loss for the dems to run her, they’re guaranteed in my mind to lose with Biden now. And you’re right, anyone who gets on stage and is younger than 65 against Trump will just trounce him. I was waiting for Biden to fight back just once against Trump but nope, he just sat there with his mouth open.
She's not senile and Biden is basically winning on a platform of not trump so I can only imagine she'll do better. The people don't like Biden, they dislike trump. No one currently in the running is anyone's first choice and pretending otherwise is just madness, so someone who has the advantage of not being fascist and not being senile only sounds like an improvement.
Same here. But it's not a lack of faith in her, it's a lack of faith in Americans.
I don't think so. She's no Joe from the 2012 vp debates, but she's also no Joe from the first 2024 presidential debate.
Don't trip over that bar on the floor
Fuckin tell me about it