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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago (3 children)

We don't have universal health care.

The school loan forgiveness was exceedingly niche, and since Biden could have forgiven all student loans unilaterally, I'm not willing to pretend it was a major achievement. The man just rearranged deck chairs on the Titanic.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago

Thanks for saying this. Both statements are true.

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Yes. But why don't we have universal healthcare or student loan forgiveness? Could there be another party blocking everything?

Dem: here is a comprehensive student loan forgiveness plan. Vote to help your constituents.

Reps: No.

Leftists:why are the parties the same, LIBERAL?

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 23 points 4 months ago

Biden didn't campaign on universal healthcare. Most of the Democrats didn't, it's why Bernie got popular off that. Same with student loan forgiveness until Bernie started mentioning it. They just don't care about it as much as they say they do.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But why don’t we have universal healthcare or student loan forgiveness?

If you think that's only because of Republicans I have some terrible news for you.

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that. I do think one party has tried or has members that have tried.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

I agree, the Dems have members that advocate for universal healthcare but the party in its entirely absolutely does not.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You're right.

It's so hard.

They should just... keep making excuses instead of working harder.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 4 points 4 months ago

Why should they work harder? Every four years they drum up votes by saying they're not as bad as the Other Guy, and about half the time it works. A large portion, maybe even a majority, of their voters come out of the woodwork around election time to call anyone dissatisfied with the Democratic party a Russian troll or worse, then disappear for the next four years until the next Other Guy needs to be defeated.

The system we have only has one way for the public to express their opinions of politicians: their vote. A vote for a politician, regardless if it's just a vote against the Other Guy, is taken as approval of that politician and their party. Now we're stuck between a rock and a hard place of our own making. Fascism on the one hand, fascism delayed by a maximum of four years on the other.

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Who said they shouldn't work harder? The point is, one party is putting effort and the other is obstructing everything.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

*Pretending to put forth effort, you mean.

The president has the power to keep Congress at work for as long as he wants, provided he considers the issue critical enough. Take your pick of critical issues, be it student loan debt, or poverty, or 2/3 of the states about to take women's bodily autonomy away, or cops becoming a legalized domestic army of oppression. etc. etc. etc.

The Democrats pretend to care and do nothing but offer empty excuses.

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He can keep Congress in session for 365 days a year. If one party is hellbent on blocking literally everything, how can you get anything done?

As for the alleged pretend effort, how do you know the hearts of the people putting forth these plans and policies? At least they're doing something. Don't mistake my sense of political reality with complacency.

Also, the overturning of Roe is a direct consequence of people failing to elect Hillary Clinton in 2016. You can have your protest non-vote, but you have to live with the consequences (a stacked supreme Court). Remember, the pre-Trump court gave us Obergefell and Dobbs, so don't act like Roe would be gone regardless of who won.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

He can keep Congress in session for 365 days a year. If one party is hellbent on blocking literally everything, how can you get anything done?

Do you think the Republicans would still be hellbent on stopping everything if a president made them work for four years straight? I sure don't.

Also, Roe repeal was the direct result of Democrats running a shitty campaign and ignoring the poor, as is happening now, and we're going to get the same result.